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d5450 wrote

It's true

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DeathToAmerica wrote (edited )

All capitalism becomes crony capitalism. It's unavoidable. And even if it didn't, libertarian capitalism would still mean massive inequality for anyone who isn't privileged enough to excel at capitalism. You really think the ideal world is one where one lucky guy has the majority of the wealth and everyone around him has to make do on his breadcrumbs, while working 9-5 to make him even more money, and like it?

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d5450 wrote

If I'm that one "lucky" white man, hell yeah brother.

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DeathToAmerica wrote

Then you desire feudalism. 'Libertarian' capitalism is just feudalism. You literally live to exploit those less fortunate than you for their labor and their blood.

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d5450 wrote

Eat or be eaten. If you don't exploit others, you will be exploited. That is human nature and cannot be avoided. No matter what ideology is in effect, there will always be someone exploiting others.

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DeathToAmerica wrote

If that's human nature then it should be perfectly fine for me to barbecue your family the next time I get hungry. So no whining after the fact.

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d5450 wrote

The thing is, it's still better than any other ideology. Under anarchy everyone would just kill and rob each other, under communism everyone would be starving and poor, and under fascism everyone would be not as hungry but still poor and a slave to the government.

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DeathToAmerica wrote

If you're going to call yourself a libertarian, you should learn what words mean. Libertarians/anarchist/communist societies don't have money. Everyone gets equal access to goods. How can everyone be poor and starving? There is no such thing as being poor in a society where there is no money and no hierarchy.

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d5450 wrote (edited )

In the 60s in the soviet union, my whole family on my fathers' side lived in a small room the size of an average living room under capitalism. They could hardly afford clothes and had to wear a pair of shoes for years. They couldn't afford a car, yet they worked hard for their state. If this isn't called being poor, idk what is.

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ziq OP wrote

"Worked hard for their state"

Communism is stateless so you're not making the point you think you're making. The USSR wasn't communist, it was state capitalist aka hyper-capitalist.

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d5450 wrote

Sorry, not much into politics. I just believe in the US constitution fully, what's that ideology called. And I'm no psychopath parasite. I would prefer everyone live a happy and free life, but our reality is different.

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DeathToAmerica wrote (edited )

that's okay but in the future don't make statements like 'I'm a libertarian' when you actually mean 'I'm a wealthy white guy who gets off gambling with people's futures and I worship a document written by slaveowning aristocrats'

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d5450 wrote

I love how you make sure to include the word "white" in your statements, I bet you believe in white privilege. I'm not white by liberal definition, I'm slavic

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ziq OP wrote

White people don't have privilege compared to non white people in your country?

I'm not white by liberal definition, I'm slavic

lol

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