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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

“computers don't do that so i'm not sure what the point is here”

We’re literally in the middle of a conversation about whether human consciousness can emerge from a simulation and whether we live in such a simulation...

Likewise, can you prove that you are conscious? If you won’t accept experimental evidence then how do you know anything is true?

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

“we're also in a conversation about the physical processes of a computer”

We’re also in a conversation about the physical processes of biological nervous systems.

I just don’t see how you make such a strong argument about “syntactic engines” being incapable of semantic evaluation. Do you actually understand how human consciousness emerges from physical processes? I don’t, but I’m confident there’s no magic between the syntactic localized behavior of neurons and the aggregate semantic behavior. So human consciousness must emerge from syntactic complexity.

One could argue, that AI won’t have “consciousness”, but it will likely be more aware and more self directed than humans.

Current, best effort AI is able to defeat humans in go, using heuristics for board configurations, without simulating all possible configurations. It’s not brute force or rules based. No one programmed in a set of rules for valuation.

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