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surreal wrote

ah the old Soul that travels to the Aeons out of Space and Time.

what about quantum computer technology? machine learn that machine to know it's existence and deduce stuff from this 'realization'. aren't humans biological computers that just realize that?

if quantum phenomena affect our biological PCs is debatable. but the piece of software that is consciousness can run on any hardware, whether it is human, mechanical, or an alien made out of gas.

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surreal wrote (edited )

i mean... no, for reasons i just explained

where?

edit: if you mean the article, i will get on it

duelism doesn't mean that the one can exist without the other

do animals have consciousness?

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ziq OP wrote

What evidence do you have that we're not operating entirely based on rigid predetermined code?

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surreal wrote

even so, why does this prevent the existence of consciousness. in eastern philosophy even rocks have it. do you believe that animals have consciousness?

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

it just has some pre-set rules for organising symbols

That's basically what humans do. Our behaviours are completely predictable, as if our responses to stimuli are hard-coded into us. Experience X + Stimuli A = Reaction XA.

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ziq OP wrote

not a very respectable position

Really dumai? I'm not some philosophy grad, do you have to be so elitist? Idk wtf hard determinism is but it sounds like insular thinking along the lines of "a bunch of distinguished gentleman philosophers I've studied would scoff at your thoughts so they're not worth my time". You often use very condescending language to communicate and it almost feels classist.

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