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md_ wrote

There's no such thing as "proof" outside of maths and formal logic.

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md_ wrote

I suspect you made a lot of assumptions from my two-word comment that was just matching the tone of the first commentator. It's not a deflection though, we really can't prove things in a system we do not know the limits of.

In earnest, my view is that there is stuff out there, but human understanding relies exclusively on abstraction, symbolic representation, and building models of the world. If we have useful (fit-for-purpose) models that make predictions which hold, then that model is "sort of" real. If we never hit upon outcomes that falsify it, and it explains the things we want explanations for, it's in a very strict sense as good as the reality.

That's what I mean with "sort of real".

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md_ wrote

Fair enough, and that's why I gave quick summary of what I think it is the case, to reassure you that I'm not just being flippant.

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