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leftous wrote

I just assume everyone is ziq until proven otherwise. Could be one of those voat trolls though.

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Dumai wrote

prove ur not ziq

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leftous wrote

I have morals and a conscience

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ziq wrote

Get over yourself, it's giving me acid reflux.

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ziq wrote

And if someone with 'morals' would say something that shitty about someone, I sure am glad I don't have it. Fucking asshole.

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leftous wrote

You brag about having no morals, so that's not even a defamatory statement.

And yes it's part of my moral code to troll trolls. So it's for a noble cause.

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ziq wrote

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Morality is a spectre. I have ethics. I have a conscience. I'm not a sociopath, despite the ableist claims otherwise. Mocking tankies and transhumanists doesn't make me Lex Luthor ffs.

it's part of my moral code

you total douche

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retiredshared2 wrote

Will the real Ziq please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here.

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Dumai wrote

i bet ziq posted this

i'm ziq btw

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

I'm new here, can someone tell me how to find out if I'm ziq?

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retiredshared2 wrote

if you post you are ziq

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

hi ziq

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ziq wrote

Stfu

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

i said hi to you and this is what i get? ;-;

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ziq wrote

stfu liberal

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

Do you even know the meaning of those words, or do you just like to call people you don't like liberal and reactionary? I looked up reactionary again, just in case I missed something.

A reactionary is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society...

Political reactionaries are largely found on the right-wing of a political spectrum, though left-wing reactionaries can also exist...

I don't see how participating in ziq alt memes counts as being reactionary. Also, my hopes for space travel and other sorts of progress that isn't capitalized and centralized in the future are kind of the opposite of reactionary.

Liberalism...

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty and equality.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support civil rights, democracy, secularism, gender and race equality, internationalism and the freedoms of speech, the press, religion and markets.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10]

Hmm. It mostly sounds like the opposite of conservatism. But, there are 20 or so variants of liberalism, including right liberalism and anarcho-capitalism. Some of those sound nasty. Could you tell me which variant of liberalism you are accusing me of?

I wonder why your other comments were downvoted, but this one was upvoted 3 times... Sometimes I don't really trust the votes on raddle.

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ziq wrote

You're a liberal and that's fine but stop calling yourself an anarchist if you want to be taken seriously. I'll take shit from people I respect, but not from a liberal.

And I was upvoted because you're literally a liberal. No one is going to argue otherwise. You don't even try to understand anarchy.

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ziq wrote

Stop making me the butt of your shitty jokes that spread fear and paranoia.

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ziq wrote

This reactionary shit was worn out months ago.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

You know your reactions are part of the schtick right? Like I'm not a fan of you either but half the reason people make jokes about you due to your past actions (which even you admitted we're fucked) is so that you'll respond exactly like you have. I mean do what you want to and all but yeah you're playing into it.

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

I guess we're reactionary because we like reactions.

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ziq wrote (edited )

'we'

you're not a unit of liberals, you're just a single liberal. Toast is actually an anarchist so don't try to attach yourself to them like you're the same.

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ziq wrote

I don't care, 4 months of this shit shows me I was completely in the right to call out spiteful ideologues with Defasher. I'm not biting my tongue when they're engaging in this reactionary outrage culture bullshit, especially when they're claiming to be morally pure while doing it.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

What you did with Defasher was completely abusive. I agree with you you know, and yeah admittedly me exploring more post left anti civ shit was a spiteful response to you, but regardless of how thankful I am now to have dropped morality and found some semblance of jargon that fits better to what I believe, what you did was unequivocally abuse. You hurt a lot of people here, myself included, with your actions, and 4 months is not enough time to forget the turmoil you created and facilitated. I'm not gonna comment on the morally pure bit because its complete horseshit. Look ultimately you can do whatever the fuck you want, but your actions and continued responses show myself and others here someone who is either incapable or unwilling to recognize the complete damage they caused. This isn't reactionary outrage culture, its anger that trust was misplaced and abused.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Then don't place trust in anonymous internet commenters. I don't need the grief of being put on some pedestal where I need to meet someone else's expectations of what an anarchist is meant to be. I'm no one's leader. I'm just an isolated hermit that spends their days breathing in toxic chemicals in a warehouse to earn a living, with no human friends, who's perpetually pissed off at capitalist industrialist colonialist civilization.

And btw defasher did nothing wrong. Talking back to transhumanists isn't abusive and it's no different than what I've always done and continue to do with my 'real' account (ha). You can make a solid argument that chomskyist was 'abusive' since it was a strawman designed to mock transhumanists, but since the other transhumanists (except you) egged chomskyist on and agreed with what it said, even when it was ridiculously liberal... maybe I really was presenting anarcho-techno-fetishism for what it actually is by holding a mirror up to it.

I'd argue chomskyist opened your eyes to the failings of transhumanism and thus served its purpose.

Defasher tho was just me being me. You might not have agreed with my politics, but there's nothing abusive about anything I said. I honestly think you just didn't like being talked back to and being forced to re-examine your identity by an arrogant asshole. But you did it anyway, and unlike the others who continue to rage, you're better for it now. Whether I could have changed your mind without the arrogance idk. I doubt you would have paid any attention to me if I weren't so abrasive.

And the rich white kids with utterly whack 'politics' that continue to devolve even further into liberalism as I type were never going to be anarchists anyway.

You were the person the whole show was for.