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GrimWillow wrote (edited )

yes

your "forefathers" were pretty fucking brutal TBH

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OKC OP wrote

But the difference is they were able to fight back and successfully defend their lands for centuries, which makes it more of a war than a holocaust.

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retiredaccount wrote

The Soviets fought back and won, even though Slavs were targeted in the Holocaust and Generalplan Ost. Again, not just Jews. It was also a war of genocide.

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elyersio wrote

How do they exterminate all indigenous people from this land in order to extract resources in 2018?

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elyersio wrote

what's wrong with my question?

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elyersio wrote (edited )

oh, sorry

yeah it is sad :(

and thank you and ziq for doing some of the research for me. I'm doing some research of my own. Funny how it's called the "Indian" health reservation.

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retiredaccount wrote (edited )

All genocides fit into the category of 'genocide' and are thus compared by default, so... yes?

Also, 'our'? This site isn't even hosted in America, nevermind American-oriented.

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OKC OP wrote

The question I asked was is it fair to compare other events to the HOLOCAUST.

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ziq wrote

I don't see why you'd need to compare genocides, it's not a contest.

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OKC OP wrote

Because I see leftists call it a Holocaust and I think it's incorrect to say that as it happened gradually over hundreds of years as part of colonization where both races fought each other for the land. The Holocaust was a deliberate policy by a single man to exterminate a race. They had no chance to fight back.

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retiredaccount wrote

by a single man

The Holocaust was perpetrated by hundreds of thousands of people working together to bring forth the end of the race, as was the colonization of America. The Generalplan Ost was also to happen gradually; Nazi Germany collapsed before they could, though. If you look into the Nazi's long term plans for the Eastern Europe, its much more like colonization than a quick act.

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OKC OP wrote

But colonization is much different than the Holocaust. They weren't colonizing Jewish lands, they were exterminating them for being Jewish. Not because we needed to spread across America but they were hostile to it like happened with the Indians.

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GrimWillow wrote

The colonization of the americas not only includes bigger and longer holocausts, but nazi germany was a thing a much shorter amount of time than US has been a thing. Throw in all that modern stuff that gets ignored like vietnam, gulf war, korea, afganistan, iraq war, etc..and you got yourself one doozy of an evil empire that you're defending there.

If you don't believe there was a deliberate extermination of indiginous on Turtle Island, here's an easy to digest starting place about US's history: http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html

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retiredaccount wrote

Again- Generalplan Ost. The Holocaust was colonization; the Jewish people were exterminated, yes. But they were mainly from Poland, and to be replaced with Germans. They also slaughtered a near equal amount of Slavs to Jews, if you look at the statistics. Generalplan Ost was a long-term colonization plan regarding Russia. Read about it and come back, please.

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succtales_backup wrote

why Our? are you assuming that everyone here is a white person living is a settler colony?

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ziq wrote

I wonder how many raddlers fit that criteria.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Genocide's genocide, and I dunno about your forefathers, but my forefathers were busy getting shot by the English in their own damn homeland instead of trying to conquer someone else's.

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

When did raddle become a right wing message board?

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retiredshared2 wrote

There's one guy being a moron with tons of downvotes... what does that have to do with the site as a whole? Is this a joke or a troll itself? I'm legitimately confused.

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