OKC OP wrote
Reply to comment by ziq in Do you think it is fair to compare our forefathers killing of the American Indians with the Nazi Holocaust? by OKC
Because I see leftists call it a Holocaust and I think it's incorrect to say that as it happened gradually over hundreds of years as part of colonization where both races fought each other for the land. The Holocaust was a deliberate policy by a single man to exterminate a race. They had no chance to fight back.
retiredaccount wrote
by a single man
The Holocaust was perpetrated by hundreds of thousands of people working together to bring forth the end of the race, as was the colonization of America. The Generalplan Ost was also to happen gradually; Nazi Germany collapsed before they could, though. If you look into the Nazi's long term plans for the Eastern Europe, its much more like colonization than a quick act.
OKC OP wrote
But colonization is much different than the Holocaust. They weren't colonizing Jewish lands, they were exterminating them for being Jewish. Not because we needed to spread across America but they were hostile to it like happened with the Indians.
retiredaccount wrote
Again- Generalplan Ost. The Holocaust was colonization; the Jewish people were exterminated, yes. But they were mainly from Poland, and to be replaced with Germans. They also slaughtered a near equal amount of Slavs to Jews, if you look at the statistics. Generalplan Ost was a long-term colonization plan regarding Russia. Read about it and come back, please.
GrimWillow wrote
The colonization of the americas not only includes bigger and longer holocausts, but nazi germany was a thing a much shorter amount of time than US has been a thing. Throw in all that modern stuff that gets ignored like vietnam, gulf war, korea, afganistan, iraq war, etc..and you got yourself one doozy of an evil empire that you're defending there.
If you don't believe there was a deliberate extermination of indiginous on Turtle Island, here's an easy to digest starting place about US's history: http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html
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