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throwaway_molotov wrote

All the drama. It seems to be fairly petty, is a huge distraction, and makes me not want to come back which is sad. I'm just here for interesting reads to stay up to date on the wold and learn some shit.

Peeps need to learn to say "I disagree but that's ok lets just move on cause this isn't going anywhere. :)"

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Diff55 wrote

This, holy crap. Walk in here 2 minutes ago and the first thing I see is some drama about the matrix chat. What in the world is this?

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noordinaryspider wrote

I am seriously a clueless outsider about the drama and my first reaction was self-flagellation for not lurking longer or understanding the community better before I started posting links.

I'm terrified of adding more drama and more stress to a community that is already struggling.

I also see some ageism that might be just as invisible to you as my own bias and the failure of my bumbling good intentions towards supporting my trans sisters and brothers is to me and am just vain enough to think we might be able to calmly and dispassionately and mutually help each other out about that.

If I'm mistaken and my comments and links devolve into flaming and unwanted-poster-disposal strategies this could cause even more drama, which is the last thing I want to do. I'm tired of being a "token freak" and a "controversial character" and would prefer to leave you kind people in peace to work things out among yourselves.

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ergdj5 wrote

You seem to have interesting age politics stuff you know, you should post about it, people will be interested!

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throwaway wrote

The drama has been here for over six months, constantly. There was the Defasher drama, the drama when emma left, the drama about ziq using alts to manipulate and decieve, the drama about the developer of some concensus platform who also left, amongst_clouds leaving, a lot of old transhumanists leaving, a lot of anprims leaving back in the day too, the drama over the fucking color of the Raddle frog, about the communist seal at the bottom of the page (which has since been removed), the drama about choosing new admins when leftous suddenly got attacked, oh mother fuck i could go on and on and on.

Some people here (we all know who, don't we?) is exceptionally good at spawning infighting, and they're not leaving anytime soon. The general unwritten rule seems to be: get used to the drama, or get out.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Funny how every thread like this fills up with spiteful passive aggressive alts making drama while complaining about alts and drama.

Ugh.

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sudo wrote

I dislike the fact that I am, as far as I know, the only communist still here. I can't have any in-depth conversations with anyone about revolution, strategies to achieve revolution, etc, because they will all devolve into arguments about hierarchy and other anarchist principles I don't agree with. I don't want to be stuck arguing about the basics tenets of communism, so I just don't start these conversations. I would invite more communists, but Raddle has pretty much solidified itself as an anarchist website by now, so bringing in a bunch of communists might feel like an invasion. Besides, most communists would turn their noses up at the amount of anarchist ideology being espoused here.

If someone started a communist version of Raddle, I would join it in a heartbeat. Would that I could create one of my own, but I don't have the resources for that, at least not yet.

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GrimWillow wrote (edited )

I don't like that people think the platform is dying just because of drama. Just add more (anti-statist, anti-fascist, anti-capitalist, etc) content you like. I also am pretty extreme in my dislike for anyone that thinks they are an Anarchist, but don't give a shit about intersectional solidarity, or somehow don't believe in institutionalized patriarchy/white supremacy/cis-hetero-normativity.

My expectation is that their are a lot of trolls who attempt to sow discord by suggesting the site is "ruined" when it isn't. I still find interesting conversation and links that I enjoy here. Maybe it's just because of the places I've been on the net, but the drama has never scared me away, but then again I haven't exactly been a huge target of it, so I'm not experiencing the same side of it. Also, my usage of the Internet is sporadic and intermittent, so my experiences of the space and drama is not the most informed.

I don't hate transhumanists as much as I just don't understand them, but attempting to call them on their unnecessary shit slinging has resulted in more childish shit-slinging in the past, which I am guilty of being drawn into.

I still feel like it's the best "reddit clone" style site out there, with the best enforced policies that seem to do a not-bad job at keeping the ocean of piss beyond the walls. Good enough for me.

edits: Some grammar..

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selver wrote

It's not that I think the site is ruined because of drama, but the issue is that people are less invested in improving it overall due to some of the shit that has happened. I think there's objectively less engagement now.

I know that's how I feel about it at least.

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ziq wrote

My expectation is that their are a lot of trolls who attempt to sow discord by suggesting the site is "ruined" when it isn't

Case in point.

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DaisyDisaster wrote

The drama from multiple sides. It's really made me think about leaving.

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ThisGuyIsAProblem wrote

I usually wait a week until my emotional attachment is gone before I look at my inbox. I highly recommend this tactic.

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

Drama.

Also think there could be multiple ways to up/down vote things.

  • [ vibe, like, funny, makes me righteously angry, ... ]
  • [ dislike, want it to go away, I have a drama boner and need to fuck with the author ]

User tagging might be cool too. That way you could tie users likes to the tags and be able to show users stories that score high for their preferences and bury stories with low scores.

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raindrops wrote

feels like a lot of condescending sarcasm , bullying, domineering-scorn. maybe some trickery/ alt-personality attempting to arouse further conversation. i wonder if it's only a couple of people or some brigade from the chats that i'm not allowed to participate in. i can't be real if i think people are faking it or they're starting from a place of dis-respect.

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Greyscalestarfield wrote

The repression of divergent thought

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closed wrote

So similar to Voat in that respect...

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Greyscalestarfield wrote

Hmm not sure I agree as voat is a free speech site, tho currently mainly occupied by the right and far right.

However I have posted left wing content there and have actually been thanked for doing so and debated.

None of my left wing posts ended up with negative scores.

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ziq wrote

Free speech site, lolol. It couldn't be a bigger fash echo chamber. Censorship of non fash is literally written into the code.

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n8chz wrote

Seems over-curated. Topic headings seem very underground while links seem very mainstream and feelgood; leading to cognitive dissonance.

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raindrops wrote

the feeling i'm stuck on here , addicted. that i'm wasting my life in a quixotic or sisyphean nightmare , that i am manipulated for some unknown reason , downward spiraling death-trap

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noordinaryspider wrote

I still felt that way on Diaspora* and had to close my account. :(

I'll pass on the armchair psychoanalysis. Some of us are simply more vulnerable to the kind of mind control and manipulation of our dopamine levels that the surveillance capitalism web like Facebook used to hurt us. We get triggered.

Raddle is not corporate. To the best of my own knowledge, we are not being deliberately manipulated to be stuck here and spend more and more time here.

We can, however, learn to recognize our own sensitivity and respect it. You are a kind presence here and a thoughtful one. Your time is not wasted. Your honest, vulnerable communication with me today has made a very positive difference in the life of one random stranger on the internet.

IMNSHO, you will be remembered and welcomed back if you need to take a break, let others deal with fixing the drama issue, and do something else for awhile.

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raindrops wrote

thanks, i will try to be more entirely elsewhere now, then. yet the potential for seeing again will persist around me, enchanting like that forgotten forest in dreams. and this is a confounding paradox, the mad hatters tea-party

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buzz wrote

keepass autofill doesnt work so i have to spend 2 seconds every time logging in

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ono wrote

leftcoms & ziq

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ziq wrote (edited )

New account with "gulag 4 ziq, kulaks deserved worse" written in profile. Can't make this shit up.

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ziq wrote

the need to please everyone