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Tequila_Wolf wrote (edited )

Cloudforester's words are swerfy in the parent comments not directly linked here.

We generally don't allow use of the site to promote selling anything. Occasionally we'll post about big sales of theoretical books, but generally when people come here to sell things we ban them. [Edit: Just remembered, didn't we have people selling poppy seeds / drugs on a forum here? Edit 2: and we host f/gundeals. So I was mistaken. That said, the few users that forum had were generally an admin pain with a lot of people with garbage politics - if they'd been substantial they wouldn't have worked in the space. (this is why we'd likely need some anarchistic sex workers running the space if we utilised the space for sex work in any substantial way)]

That said, I've never liked the no porn rule. Unlike a 'rule' against racism, a rule against porn does not seem necessary. And since it doesn't seem necessary, I don't think it should exist.

When this clampdown on sex work happened in the US (and as a result globally), I wondered how we might be able to help. Raddle's not very well-optimised as a sex working site because of the (generally) visual nature of it and raddle's lack of embedded images. I would love it if sex workers did some work on postmill to optimise it for their use.

If sex workers wanted to use the site, I would invite them to propose it to the community. Of course, our present rules will generally make them assume they are not welcome (and so they would probably not even try), so that probably needs to at the very least be reworded to imply that they can be changed.

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sudo wrote

I never liked the "no porn" rule, either, and I don't recall it being proposed in /f/meta. Perhaps we should call for a re-vote.

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ziq wrote (edited )

It was proposed in meta, voted on and passed. I made sure that non-pornographic nudity would still be permitted when I added it to the ToS.

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sudo wrote

I cannot find it anywhere in /f/meta. Was the thread deleted?

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ziq wrote

Idk. If you check the tos it might list the date I added that rule, which might make it easier to find. Duckduckgo site:raddle.me porn rule brought back too many results to be worth slogging through on mobile. I can't remember who made the proposal.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I haven't managed to find it either - all I've found is the conversation linked at the bottom of the w/terms_of_service - this one - which isn't great. More was definitely said about it, since I think I remember voicing my reservations then. Must be deleted?

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ziq wrote

I also remember talking more than that. I voiced my reservations and made the point that banning nudity would be a bad idea because what about femen protests and art and etc.

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sudo wrote

Must be. I don't remember seeing the proposal, though, since I would have cast a "nay" vote on it. Maybe it was voted on and deleted when I was away for a few days, or maybe it was proposed somewhere other than /f/meta. I don't know.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I've looked for a while though and it's likely been deleted. Seems like it should be readdressed. Somebody making a proposal then us collectively working on amending it sounds good.

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sudo wrote (edited )

Sounds good. I'll go open it up for discussion in /f/meta.

Edit: Here it is.