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ziq OP wrote (edited )

I think the idea of culture has been perverted by capitalism so much that it can never be really rediscovered. For example, until 40-50 years ago, 99.9% of the population here ate weeds, fruit and olives. That was their whole diet except on very special occasions. Now 'traditional' food has all been fucked with to add meat and cream and cheese to everything. Real traditional (peasant) food is looked down on and no longer appreciated or even known about.


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I feel no connection to the country I live in (USA) and the culture simply hasn't ever felt right and I don't believe it'll ever feel right to live in.

I can't tell exactly what it is, but it simply doesn't feel right to live in or as.


DissidentRage wrote

Feel exactly the same way. I think it's because the "culture" we have here is so fucking manufactured (in addition to toxic as hell) it may as well be described as not having a culture at all.


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That'd make sense, but it almost feels worse than a lack of a culture- it feels choking. Like an anti-culture. A culture that actively works against those in it, and the development of a 'true' culture among them.


DaisyDisaster wrote

I have complicated feelings about this because I've been isolated from part of my family for a while and didn't get to learn their language and culture. I want to learn, because I feel like I am missing something about myself and where I come from if I don't.

On the other hand, of the family I do know, I don't appreciate their culture and have rejected it, for the most part. Their traditions aren't important to me.


md_ wrote

It would take me a while to process my thoughts on this, but they are clearly more in the side of anti-tradition.

But I realise, and I think it's important to keep this in mind: there's something qualitatively different between a person of background X living in region X, and a person of background X living in region Y. In more explicit terms, immigrants have a different relation to their origin culture than people who haven't moved elsewhere.

Case in point, this headline I just saw: US teen praised in China for wearing traditional dress. There's no doubt in my mind that the experiences of a Chinese person in China, and a Chinese person in the US are very different, and they may relate to their culture in ways that could be contradictory. But sometimes it seems like not both stances are right.


Green_Mountain_Makhno wrote

Being from the US, my country's culture is incredibly toxic on almost every level. Tradition in the sense of culture (at least "western" culture) is almost always toxic - filled to the brim with toxic masculinity, transactionalism, and racism. Spoiled with capitalism and imperialism, built to brainwash, oppress and enslave.

I think there is some value to having traditions - in the sense of celebrations, gifts, certain things you do at certain time of year or to celebrate certain things - within a family or community that can celebrate our lives and situations, and are based in values of liberation and mutual aid.


TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

most of the regional culture in france was killed in the 1800's when they started to have mandatory school for everybody. People were forced to learn the "parisian" french and were beaten if they talked "patois" (french term for our frenchish dialects). From that moment on, regional culture died at the same rate as regional languages.

There isnt much left appart from regional pride, wich is expressed with bumper stickers and maybe a party once a year, or is used in the political agenda of the communist/Conservative partys of the region.

I personally am from mixed origins and have mixed culture, so I dont have any attachment.

Traditional methods of building houses can be good since most of the time they're efficient and green.


Cosmicsloth42 wrote

There are some parts of my regional culture I like (a lot I don't but some I do) There is a history of independence, individualism, and resistance to government intervention.