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How does raddle feel about north korea?

Submitted by raddler in AskRaddle

Do you guys like the governemnt of north korea?

Is some of their actions justified for their final goals?

How does raddle feel about juche compared to socialism and communism?

Do you guys support their nuclear testing programs?

Is their government better or worse from your persepctives than countrys such as South Korea and America?

Thoughts on recent peace talks, and upcoming meeting with trump?

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____deleted____ wrote

No, I don't like dictatorships.

No, dictatorships are never justified.

It's far from socialism or communism and is clearly an imperialist puppet vestige of the Soviet Union that's been handed off to China.

No. Nuclear weapons are always an issue.

Hard to tell. At least they only fuck their own people, usually don't go out of their way to fuck the rest of the world.

Peace is great! Trump is not good at peace. Would be best to leave the Koreas to it.

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ChaosRocket wrote

I don’t like their government. I don’t agree with dictatorships at all, and they’re obviously not actually socialist or communist.

I do support their right to have nuclear weapons though. It’s hypocritical how the US doesn’t want any other country to have “weapons of mass destruction” yet somehow it’s fine for us to have them. Since the US obviously won’t get rid of their nuclear weapons, it’s probably good for as many other countries as possible to have them because then that keeps us in a stalemate where neither country is willing to attack the other. So it seems like other countries having nuclear weapons makes it less likely we’ll start another pointless war with that country.

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therealmidnite wrote (edited )

I hate governments.

No. For further reading, see answer 1.

No. For further reading, see answer 1.

I am not aware of any action on my part that has benefited the DPRK's nuclear weapons program. Or anyone else's, for that matter.

Nope. For further reading, see answer 1.

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ETERNAL_PRISONER wrote

I'm in no way supporting the regime in NK, but it outrages me, how the western media is portraying the whole issue. For example, the imperial west is forcing NK to discard their nuclear arsenal, while theyself want to keep their weapons. Or calling NK a "dictatorship". Such hypocrisy!

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sudo wrote

I haven't had much time to read about Juche, so I can't comment on how it stands up to other forms of socialism. Likewise regarding the DPRK government - there are so many horror stories about them that turn out to be false, that it's impossible to tell what's true. I'd basically have to visit in order to determine what life is actually like there.

Regarding their nuclear program, I do support it. They've been through a harrowing war, and the South and the US both constantly play war games on their border. I think they really do only want to use them as a war deterrent.

And, in that regard, it seems they are functioning as intended. They got the ROK to agree to peace talks for the first time in ten years, and the US is also considering joining the talks. The DPRK has said they're willing to denuclearize in exchange for a peace treaty, which might work well for South Korea, but I would not trust the US to abide by any treaties. Maybe they're just using this as a bargaining chip, and they don't really intend to denuclearize, but I don't know. I think it's in their own best interests to hang on to their nuclear weapons.

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

I think NK has legitimate reasons for why they were paranoid and aggressively defensive against SK and the USA. The US has not acknowledged the war crimes they committed and without acknowledgement there really couldn’t be peace.

This agreement happened because US has lost its relative position in power over SK and NK. NK now has nuclear weapons technology and doesn’t need to test anymore to improve or prove it has nuclear weapons. SK finally saw a benefit in making peace with NK as the US has taken on an unofficial ‘fend for yourself’ policy.

Overall, I see all of this as a positive shift. Nuclear powers avoid direct conflict as escalating carries potentially dire consequences. NK suddenly finds a seat at the nuclear table and suddenly peace talks are possible. Thus logically it follows it was always SK and the US who were opposed to peace and NK can likely be trusted.

NK unshackled by trade embargoes, and at peace with it’s neighbors, will be able to have a functional economy and hopefully will be able to flourish as a functional example of communism.

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jadedctrl wrote

NK unshackled by trade embargoes, and at peace with it’s neighbors, will be able to have a functional economy and hopefully will be able to flourish as a functional example of communism.

You don't really think that NK has an economic system anywhere near Socialism or Communism, do you?

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

Have they ever existed in an environment where capitalists weren’t actively trying to topple their government?

This is the irony of power and provocation, the bully forces the victim into a state of survival and the bully ends up looking like the good guy.

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jadedctrl wrote (edited )

Have they ever existed in an environment where capitalists weren’t actively trying to topple their government?

That can rightly justify some otherwise fucked up things… to a certain degree. The NK, however, has long since passed that margin.
It's clear that any attempt to establish a leftist political & economic system was half-hearted at best.

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____deleted____ wrote

They don't even call themselves communist anymore. They removed it from their constitution.

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

They’re still called Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea...

I’m genuinely curious what/when they removed what you’re talking about from their constitution.