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kore OP wrote

my understanding which is pretty basic is that oppression of PoC, queer people, women, the poor, just to name a few, is all tied to capitalism and the state. (white heteropatriarchy if you will). So it's misguided to think that one can end racism or sexism or homophobia alone without ending the others because they are all results of the same institutions. Again, pretty basic but I always thought this was a pretty easy way of understanding.

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kore OP wrote

Um, not necessarily. Maybe I should be more general and say that if there are a lot of oppressed groups then it's likely that the same or similar structures have a hand in the oppression of all of them.

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kore OP wrote

I don't think the word "arseholes" covers the degree of systemic oppression that is perpetrated by white cis heteropatriarchy. It's true that in other parts of the world there are other forces that oppress, like islamophobia for example (put a different way it's religious supremacy).

I also really need to add to my general statement that before the category "white" existed, PoC as a category did not exist. White supremacy created that category. So in a sense, yes, there was no oppression of PoC before white supremacy. Similar line of reasoning applies to the other groups. Though they're more difficult to trace historically.

You're right that noone is genetically predisposed to be any worse than anyone else is. Genetic essentialism is very close to racial discrimination. Sure, if a dutch person was raised in a Black African family they may not be a "self-righteous prick", and to the people of the community they could just be considered another member. However, if they came to the U.S. or Europe or something they would be treated very differently than the family that raised them.

It's all about history. You can't consider these issues in a vacuum.

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