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Pop wrote

talking in abstractions is hard

do you have some examples?

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surreal OP wrote

examples may be perceived differently from person to person and all i want is your first impulsive answer.

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raindropq wrote

seeing some questionable satire around behavioral assessment; ad-hominems involving social-aptitude/communication defecit, autism dementia i think good satire is actually uplifting, drawing on a common, good-natured humor. it is not condescending , malicious or spiteful

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robottroymacclure wrote

i agree! its supposed to be a contrast to drama and hardship. levity, joy, without these what is anything worth? IMHO the funniest stuff is sometimes capable of taking the darkness and bleakness of the human experience and using that as material to make people laugh so, where is the line? we make it up as we go along anf fail quite often.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

I think there's knowing your audience, and there's being in good taste, and occasionally a satirist is going to miss one of the two eventually. Attacking people without power isn't satirical insofar as brutalizing when one is above them, but coming from or adjacent to them can be a genuine and cutting examination on a group. The poor should be able to criticize themselves and their own conditions, because the question of how they got this way must naturally follow. I do, however, think that satire and irony are grossly misapplied to things that are neither satirical or ironic, and have become excuses to kick down and mistreat others. For every Thomas Swift, there's two Trey Parkers or Seth MacFarlanes.

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UpTickInDowngrade wrote

Satire is a persuasive tool used to highlight moral and political issues through joking or mocking. There is always a risk in it doing more harm than good. It wouldn't be fair to a terrorist victim if they just lost a loved one and then within hours saw someone making satirical jokes about the event. It also wouldn't be fair to the comedian to say that some jokes are off limits or have a delayed start period. Know your audience and consider if you're going to alienate more people than persuade.

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Franz_trashka wrote

As far as I can see it, good satire should make the group that's being satirised laugh. The only boundary is if the group is not amused.

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