[deleted] wrote at March 23, 2018 at 4:41 PM (edited at March 23, 2018 at 6:09 PM)

Dumai wrote at March 23, 2018 at 4:47 PM

in my time there've been several occasions i've been mocked for being shit and i count those occasions among the important formative experiences of my life. i'm as prone to fucking up as anybody and when i fuck up i deserve to be called a fuck up! god knows what i'd be like now if none of that had happened to me

[deleted] wrote at March 23, 2018 at 4:51 PM (edited at March 23, 2018 at 6:09 PM)

Dumai wrote at March 23, 2018 at 4:57 PM

a very important part of this learning experience is coming to terms with the fact there are consequences for being an asshole. i've lost some friendships over shit i used to believe - namely the very militant atheism of my teenage years - and i'd be lying if i said i was happy about it at the time, but it's definitely what i needed. and these days most of the social circles i'm involved in are religious and/or interfaith!

Don't try to make me into the bad guy

you're the one arguing that we need accommodate bigots and "nurture the good in them", how are you not the bad guy here

[deleted] wrote at March 23, 2018 at 5:01 PM (edited at March 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM)

DaisyDisaster wrote at March 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM

So I guess that means you don't follow your own advice. Why, then, would you expect others to?

Dumai wrote at March 23, 2018 at 5:27 PM

can you believe this guy went from "be a teacher, not a tyrant" to "I WILL PUNCH YOU FOR DISAGREEING WITH ME"

DaisyDisaster wrote at March 23, 2018 at 6:06 PM

My pappy always said, "Do as I say, not as I do."

[deleted] wrote at March 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM (edited at March 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM)

DaisyDisaster wrote at March 23, 2018 at 5:45 PM

I will not be talked down to by such a hate-filled ass clown like that, though. By his own admission, this is how he learns, so I was only giving him what he asked for. If you don't like it, that's just too damn bad.

Isn't a bigot getting what they asked for when they are mocked? How come Dumai "asks" for that by pissing you off but a bigot doesn't "ask" for it when they demean and dehumanize whole groups of people?