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____deleted____ wrote (edited )

I stated it was lesser; 'almost' was certainly wrong to say entirely. Flower bowl shoes are another tier and a bad comparison to make. The intent was only to highlight it's nature as permanent shaping of the body.

I live in America. I was circumcized. All my male partners have been circumcized. I speak not of other continents.

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Dumai wrote

if youre talking about a practice that has a loooong cultural history in africa and the middle east then you are speaking of other continents

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____deleted____ wrote (edited )

Bloodletting had a long cultural history in Europe, circumcision still has extended history in America. And regardless of which culture, I point no fingers at them, only of the practice. Papua New Guinea; rape capital of the world statistically. Some cultures have aspects that are dirty, but I do not wish to portray any culture entirely this way.

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Dumai wrote

i'm not arguing it's morally justified because it has a cultural history, you could justify literally anything with that kind of argument. what i am saying is that its particular cultural history is morally complex and this means naming this practice as abusive could open the door to some worrying power dynamics.

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____deleted____ wrote

I suppose I started the argument on a misinterpretation then tripped on my words and made bad comparisons multiple time. Looks like you've won this debate.