zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:21 PM (edited on March 19, 2018 at 9:21 PM)

Reply to comment by ziq in Who do you find "the left" unfairly excludes or discriminates against the most? How can we be more inclusive to that particular group? by leftous

how does it harm children? I've read everything you've written multiple times.

leftous OP wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:32 PM

Would you call nazis sitting around promoting and fantasizing about killing Jews, or the if the KKK were fantasizing about killing blacks, making cartoons about it, "harmless"?

You have to realize that sexualizing children is violence. And not just against any group - but literally the most vulnerable, innocent, and defenseless group. It is not harmless.

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:40 PM

I'd call that violence, sure.

I'd call participating in a subculture that sexualizes children violence, sure.

But I wouldn't call having a fetish about child rape to be violence, and I'd call it pedophilia.

leftous OP wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:48 PM

So you agree that lolicon and the associated subculture is violent and harmful.

But you don't consider a fetish to commit violence and cause harm (also known as "pedophilia") to be harmful?

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:57 PM

yeah, that's a good way of putting it.

More importantly I don't think it's right to hate someone just for being fucked in the head. They have to do something, like participate in pedophile subculture or embrace their identity as a pedophile or at the worst actually act on their fetish, to be worthy of hate, in my view.

leftous OP wrote on March 19, 2018 at 10:06 PM

So if someone said they had a sexual fetish of chopping your head off, decapitating skulls turn them on. You'd say "Hey, at least you haven't chopped my head off yet!" and tell them it's all good?

The reality is it is harmful when someone is driven to violence, no matter how you dress it up. Whether or not you hate someone for being harmful, or try to help them to challenge and destroy these harmful impulses, is an entirely different question.

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 10:10 PM (edited on March 19, 2018 at 10:11 PM)

So if someone said they had a sexual fetish of chopping your head off, decapitating skulls turn them on. You'd say "Hey, at least you haven't chopped my head off yet!" and tell them it's all good?

well, yeah, but I get what you mean.