zorblax wrote at March 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM

when did punishment become a part of the conversation?

It was always? Or am I totally missing something

would you negatively judge somebody who professes racist beliefs without ever "acting on" them?

beliefs can be changed without intensive therapy. Pedophilia, or psychopathy, or <insert something else awful here> is part of a person and it takes more than an illuminating conversation to change it.

Dumai wrote at March 19, 2018 at 9:07 PM (edited at March 19, 2018 at 9:57 PM)

beliefs can be changed without intensive therapy. Pedophilia, or psychopathy, or <insert something else awful here> is part of a person and it takes more than an illuminating conversation to change it.

given how many people are already trying to define racism as an expression of mental illness or otherwise psychological impulse (much in the same way you are trying to do with pedophilia) we'll see how long this belief lasts but have you ever noticed how ex-white supremecists actually tend to spend a lot of time in therapy? have you ever noticed how overcoming culturally instilled racist beliefs and behaviours actually takes years of effort? what would your opinion be of somebody who doesn't even bother to try because they like themselves that way?

zorblax wrote at March 19, 2018 at 9:14 PM

what your opinion be of somebody who doesn't even bother to try because they like themselves that way?

I'd obviously hate them.

I've only met one pedophile I had any respect for. He really didn't like that part of himself, and tried to suppress it. He got a lot of shit when he told people about it. He's really the only reason I made this comment in the first place, because I know people like him exist and I think they're treated unfairly.