[deleted] wrote on March 19, 2018 at 8:02 PM

Reply to comment by zorblax in Who do you find "the left" unfairly excludes or discriminates against the most? How can we be more inclusive to that particular group? by leftous

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 8:38 PM

How can you judge someone for their conscious experience and not their actions?

[deleted] wrote on March 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 8:43 PM

I can understand how, a posteriori, they're pretty obviously linked.

But it's obviously incredibly wrong to punish someone before they've done anything.

[deleted] wrote on March 19, 2018 at 8:47 PM (edited on March 19, 2018 at 8:48 PM)

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM

when did punishment become a part of the conversation?

It was always? Or am I totally missing something

would you negatively judge somebody who professes racist beliefs without ever "acting on" them?

beliefs can be changed without intensive therapy. Pedophilia, or psychopathy, or <insert something else awful here> is part of a person and it takes more than an illuminating conversation to change it.

[deleted] wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:07 PM (edited on March 19, 2018 at 9:57 PM)

zorblax wrote on March 19, 2018 at 9:14 PM

what your opinion be of somebody who doesn't even bother to try because they like themselves that way?

I'd obviously hate them.

I've only met one pedophile I had any respect for. He really didn't like that part of himself, and tried to suppress it. He got a lot of shit when he told people about it. He's really the only reason I made this comment in the first place, because I know people like him exist and I think they're treated unfairly.