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red_pepper wrote

I blame Mearsheimer's The Israel Lobby and offensive realism theory. It's just Jewish conspiratism wrapped up in a veneer of legitimacy, and a lot of leftists who lack a firm understanding of imperialism bought into it.


Dumai wrote

what really gets to me is people who say america's relationship with israel has nothing to do with the government's interests in the middle east and can be reduced solely to some kind of conspiracy of lobbyists to "distort" american foreign policy, like, how do you think american imperialism works

and the implication seems to be that if it could be explained by america's foreign interest that would somehow legitimise it, which is liberal nonsense in the first place