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happy wrote

I have a hard time seeing how trans-humanism isn't going to lead a lot of wrongs. Alienation of those that choose not to put wire in their brains, increased depression due to having infinite knowledge and ability, the possible authoritarian reign that robots would have over our actions and ideas, and is going to lead to more environmental devastation from the production and maintenance of the tech.

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happy wrote

Regardless if the transhumanism is anarchist or not I think there will be alienation for those that abstain. Brain implants would bring about a new ableism, or ableism towards people that don't have the internet in their heads. Also, look at how people treat and call out people against vaccines. I can see the discourse being very similar.

I think a part of the human condition is a desire for knowledge and new challenges. A cyborg with a computer brain will have no mental or physical challenges. They would be able to achieve practically anything they want to do. Without challenges I think people will get very bored and depressed.

It takes more than preserving the environment to actually save it though. A utilitarian view is going to give the mindset that the world is not a living thing and things can be taken from it freely without giving anything back.

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happy wrote

I think creating a separation between augmented and regular humans is a price worth paying

This is literally creating hierarchy and I would not consider it to be anarchism at all.

we're quite good at creating challenges

Please expand on this? :)

Spend some time reading /r/ or /f/collapse. Saving the environment is not something we can just take care of now. It requires a lot of future planning.

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AlexanderReidRoss OP wrote

leaving people live with shit body, shit minds, and shit living envrionment

Comrade, you're coming off as either ableist or misanthropist depending on what you mean by this. Our minds and bodies aren't shit, and Earth isn't a shit living environment.

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happy wrote

tbh your answer was low effort and condescending

You're not wrong, but thanks for the heated vocab in your first sentence.

Anything that creates social stratification is going to to create hierarchy, inevitably. This is a very common critique on various technologies. Am I for the abolishment of all forms of technology? Definitely not. Am I being critical of the technologies that are actively being created and maintained? Yes.

Proponents of capitalism argue that it gives possibilities to people and we both know how wrong that is in creating hierarchy. We currently have the choice to eschew technology but if someone wants to have a place in society they are coerced into using those technologies. Anarcho-transhumanism won't be any different. Just because it's under the guise of choice doesn't mean its actually free.

Being critical of technology is not actively choosing to letting people live with shit lifes. Anarchism should have absolute egalitarianism as a goal and creating technology that is going to create more social stratification is not egalitarian.

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