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not_AFX_lol wrote

Tack spirituality on to the list of things that I don't have time to seriously think about.

I don't know if there's some higher power, and I don't have the knowledge base to make a decision, and it doesn't really affect me either way, so under the rug it goes I suppose.

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Dumai wrote (edited )

religion is important to me insofar as i don't know exactly what it would mean for me to be irreligious anymore. any human belief system, natural or supernatural, depends on mythology - abstraction is a necessary part of how human beings build categories and narratives to understand the universe, themselves, and their relation to the universe. there really is no such thing as a narrative that has absolutely no fictive content.

for the time being i worship as a quaker, which means i try to make almost everything i do an act of worship.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

In the off chance you aren't aware of it, there's at least one quaker anarchist podcast afaik:

https://soundcloud.com/friendlyanarchism

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Dumai wrote (edited )

holy shit thank you!!! this is exactly the kind of thing i need in my life immediately

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Tequila_Wolf wrote (edited )

You're welcome.

I had a look around and I just know that one.

They post a bunch of stuff on their facebook page also that you might find interesting and would contribute nicely to raddle if you wanted to keep up with it and post interesting things.

I suspect you don't need an account to browse it: https://www.facebook.com/friendlyanarchism/

also have a look at https://friendlyfirecollective.wordpress.com/

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____deleted____ wrote

It couldn't be less important; I figure I'll see what's up when I die, or I won't. Until then, I have more important things to focus on.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

I try to be honorable and true to the Gods where I can be. I believe pretty strongly, but a refreshing aspect of non-abrahamic religion has been the understanding that they just don't always care, or have time to care. It begins to feel less paternal, and more like a partnership or a pact; I do what I can with the expectation of help later when I've fulfilled my own duties. The Gods aren't omniscient or omnipotent, and the only divine plan is survival.

Honor and duty have a place to me in helping me guide my actions less selfishly, holding myself to higher standards to better take care of my chosen family even when a lot of the time it feels like it'd be easier just making a clean break from everything and being a hermit.

The Gods' flaunting and subversion of gender roles, their own mortal-like conflicts over sex and love and social transgressions, the role of magic as an explicitly feminine but not /female/ thing and the domain of queer folk, women and those on the margins of society, these things have all helped me indescribably in finding myself and being a better person. Call it childish all you like if faith isn't your thing, but it helped me grow up.

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Jessica wrote

I think it's important for community and to let go of our need to understand everything. I have respect for the belief that something happens in the afterlife, though I recognize that it can be used to justify despicable behavior.

Essentially it is important to look into whether people are being authentic about it.

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leftous wrote (edited )

Spirituality is essential for freeing and escaping your self. Being trapped by your identity, your past, and others ideas and expectations of you is a very toxic way to live.

I would say my spirituality has a direct influence on my politics as well. Wanting to free the individual and the collective from themselves and the monsters we create.

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jadedctrl wrote (edited )

I'm not a religious person-- though I have been reading about Ōmoto lately, and have started practicing some of its tenants. I don't believe in it, but it's the faith I most prefer. I think it's kind of fun and nice how faith can ascribe life with some cosmic, overarching narrative, even if it isn't real.

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Random_Revolutionary wrote

Religion is useless. Spirituality may be useful for children to build theire character and help them cope with the notion of death, but once people are mature enought, they'd better turn to cooler things such as ethics.

I host spirituality talks and praying sessions with groups of children and adolescent, using curated texts from the bible to start the discussion. We also do cooler stuff such as games and observations of nature.

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amongstclouds wrote (edited )

If you think spirituality is just about 'building character' and 'coping with a notion of death' I don't think you should be hosting talks on such things.

Oh, and ethics are not cool, their boring tools used to create social normalcy. At least 'spirituality' in most of its incarnations encourage personal, individuated growth.

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Random_Revolutionary wrote

I dont believe in spirituality and it doesn't bring me anything. I still am able to make a healthy space for other people to spiritually grow.

Yeah I kinda find ethics boring too tbh

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amongstclouds wrote (edited )

You literally said spirituality is useful for 'children' to 'build their character' and 'help them cope with the notion of death'. This is amounting the spiritual practice of millions of people to just some 'thing they should have outgrown years ago'. I'm sorry, but I don't see how this mentality is beneficial in such a setting.

It's not that ethics are boring, but ethics is just an attempt to replace 'divine law' with the 'law of man', but the irony here is that even 'divine law' has always been based on the will of those individuals who created them.

I'm not trying to be aggressive, btw. :p