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Fossidarity wrote

I don't really care about exercising for sexual attractiveness but I think exercise is essential to be healthy in our modern sedentary lifestyles. The gym-bro culture sucks.

I had a period where I did a lot of exercise (climbing) and I felt a lot better on average than I do now. I would like to pick up some form of it again, I'm thinking about swimming, but it kind of interferes a lot with the free time I have to pursue other things after work.


leftous wrote

I've always felt icky about it. It's just another form of 'productivity porn'.

Being a gym bro isn't cheap, there's a whole industry behind it that preys on people's insecurities - protein powder, gym memberships, equipment, different fitness fads, gear, steroids, supplements, etc. The culture is part of a push towards having every granular aspect of our lives driven by consumerism; our lives being a function of our work and social status.

That being said, I do try to improve myself physically, but I do it very consciously resisting the culture/images that are being pushed upon me. Moreover, I actually use my time at the gym to deconstruct a lot of stereotypes e.g. I use gym time to have heart to hearts with friends, make them more considerate, and build trust.


GaldraChevaliere wrote

Being fit is important to me. I'm in a conflicted place with a really unhealthy body image that simultaneously demands I be impossibly short and thin and cute, but also as physically strong as I am when I'm working. I end up yo-yoing between fit to hike for miles and a skinny little nothing. I absolutely hate gym environments and feel pressured even more than I put on myself going into them.


md_ wrote

I am vaguely aware of something like a gym culture, especially around those doing serious weightlifting, but I haven't experienced it, and people at the gym, to my surprise, are happy to leave me alone if I want to be left alone, or help me if I ask them.

Maybe it has to do with the fact I go to an effectively non-for-profit gym, so there's very little "supplements pushing" etc.

As for my reason for going to the gym, it is gaining some upper body/core strength, in order to fix my posture and make my cycling better. Whether this need is socially conditioned for me or not, I don't know, but I want to keep cycling so I decided to shape up.


braketheboxes wrote (edited )

First realize in the west especially we are constantly bombarded with hollywood icons with the aim of manipulating us into spending our slave wages on products and services we do not need.

The gym rat culture thing arises from insecurity due to the above. The constant need to compare is the same as narcissists on facebook <stasibook>. I pity them to be honest because they are caught in a mental trap. Despite what one thinks it does not define one as a person as it is an external thing. So in identifying myself as a gym rat I'm going to feel threatened if I'm perceived to be less of a gym rat than my image of myself as one. It creates a constant state of conflict and tension within oneself.

I would like to point out also that women have a tremendous pressure from the cosmetics and fashion industries. Like men who are all supposed to be ripped lumberjacks and james bond supermen, women are made to feel inadequate if they are not kim kardashian or celebrity du jour. Selfies and social media doesn't help in this regard.

From a personal point of view I care about living a clean and healthy lifestyle. I look for the same in a partner. That being said, I don't desire them to dress a certain way or wear particular products or whatever. I'm interested in a persons mind the most though.

Exercise is necessary for living a healthy life. If it comes to it I want to know I can lift my own weight or save another person or out run state enforcers.

Mandela and his fellow political prisoners did pushups and ran on the spot in there cells every morning.

If anyone who reads this doesn't exercise I would recommend doing some yoga. It is low intensity and will help reduce stress and keep you supple.


Tequila_Wolf wrote

I don't know much about gym culture, but I also haven't found it necessary to participate in it when I've gone to gyms.

I spent a lot of time working on body positivity stuff and also unlearning beauty norms so aside from dysphoria I don't get bothered by much - except I like to be fit enough to fuck well enough. Which isn't very fit, just not totally unfit.

My biggest problem with gyms is the cost of membership!


selver wrote

I spent a lot of time working on body positivity stuff and also unlearning beauty norms

Any specific resources/techniques for that?


Tequila_Wolf wrote

Not anything specific unfortunately, I just have mostly hardcore queer feminist friends who don't take shit.

Understanding the logic behind it and then doing whatever you can to grind away the shitty things you've learned is pretty much all I've got. I think it took a long time of thinking about and actively giving attention to other kinds of bodies to really try to think about whether I liked them outside of what I had been taught.

Checking out feminists sites might help - there's one specifically focused on bodies,, and it's not bad for basics.


Infinity wrote

I wish the gym was treated like therapy focused on success vs focused on making people feel insecure. What a great money pit.

There is an advertisement at my gym in the bathroom that is so dehumanizing and humiliating. I think it's for Baja Fresh? It says something to the effect of work out hard so you can earn/ deserve your meal/calories. It made me want to cry. :-(

I like to go to the gym, but I don't like the gym culture. The gym is kind of a weird place. So many egos focusing on externals. It's an intense energy place. It is a lot more fun though if you have a friend to go with. Picking things up and putting them down can get kind of dull all by yourself. :-)


not_AFX_lol wrote

I think physical fitness is vital to healthy life.

That said, I think there's a point to be had in that the modern health/fitness culture is somewhat classist, in that it is a lifestyle to marketed toward the rich - $3000 bikes, jogging outfits, expensive juicers, Whole Foods, etc. My limited understanding of it is that since many wealthy people have the leisure time and money available to take up fitness-focused hobbies, there is a certain expectation of physical fitness in the upper class that isn't necessarily present in the stereotypical working class, especially in the United States, where we have the stereotypical truck-driving, fast-food-eating pudgy white guy as the immediate mascot for the rural poor.


selver wrote

Maybe that's the vibe I've been getting from it. I live in a really expensive city and fitness seems kinda mandatory for young people. Which, while we can say it's healthy and all that, a 3-4 day/week workout regime for the average person seems like a pretty recent development to me.