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Tequila_Wolf wrote (edited )

You're right - I think I was thinking more along the lines of how this alienation from what we affect is necessitated by cities and not so much in towns. And how it seems a more totalising alienation in cities than towns, but I might be wrong there.
Where I'm from there's possibly a much sharper divide between urban and rural with relatively not so much by way of small towns. Not sure.

but it is living in civilization and capitalism

I think civilisation is characterised in part by cities, so we're possibly on board there, and I of course agree that capitalism is alienating.

I was not thinking about anarcho-primitivists here, but non-primitivist anti-civilisation critiques. I'm still figuring out what post-civ is.

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happy wrote

From what I understand post-civ is non-primitivist while still being anti-civilization. Life after civilization has crumbled.

Post-Civ! is a good primer. Here for a more in-depth look.

I think I would define civilization as the idea of advancement for the sake of advancement. Similar to capitalism being growth for the sake of growth, but civilization will still have a desire to advance itself. Transhumanism and space communism as examples.