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Ant wrote (edited )

is there enough of us to facilitate actual change, creating a global snowball effect?

I don't think this kind of question is well-posed

Firstly because there are always debates about "if there are enough of us", which are holding people back from acting with what they have

Secondly, aiming for a 'global snowball effect' is ok but also kind of meaningless and abstract

I'd rather we talked in terms of actual projects, and also what we need to do to expose raddle to more users and also to make raddle more accessible and retain users

No one project will create a snowball effect, most likely. We will be a wave in an ocean
But we can be a wave the reverberates around the world; at the least, we have some minimal good foundations
(though I imagine that it wouldn't take much for a state intelligence operation to dispense with the admins and shut down the site if they wanted, so that's something we'll have to tackle if we get bigger)


Cheeks OP wrote (edited )

Agreed. It could have been articulated better. It was written hastily as the result of an IRL convo with a liberal regarding the 'diversity of tactics' argument.

I would never want to discourage a single person or small group, or detract in any way from their ability to bring about change. The fact is it usually starts with one person or a very small group.

By, 'aiming for a global snowball effect, ' my point was in projects that are easily accessible and repeatable beyond the arbitrary lines drawn on maps. Projects that have a measurable impact on the lives of those involved. The abstraction is fully intentional, but I wouldn't call that 'meaningless. ' However I do see that my point is being lost, so maybe, a rewrite is in order.

Perhaps it should read, 'How many users are here from differing areas of north america, or even the world? Is there enough of us interested in creating a confederated projects oriented network? How can we use Raddle to help facilitate this?


Magma5 wrote

Do you mean kind of like Anonymous?


Cheeks OP wrote

I guess yes, and no. That is entirely dependent on what you mean by, -"kind of like anonymous?"

Yes in the sense that they are group of voluntary participants who use to vote on their targets and tactics. Besides I was speaking more towards confederated projects like community gardens in low income urban food deserts, or food redistribution that goes beyond food not bombs, or whatever as long as it strikes a blow at the current social political climate and gives people the tools to take portions of their lives out of the control of our 'leaders' and puts it back where it belongs, in their own hands.