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Nikki wrote

I'm a terrible liar and even worse at committing petty crime without getting caught, so I don't. But I don't care if other people do it.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

Shoplifting seems to me like ethical consumption under capitalism :)

I do it, but not often; especially easier stuff and luxuries. I try to shoplift all of my makeup, for example, which tends to be small items.

I would do it more if I felt it was safe to.

Not sure if you've seen f/Shoplifting yet.

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dele_ted wrote

I think it's ethical as long as you don't lift from small shops without employees, they're often struggling to get by just as much as us. Chain stores is a different story though, i personally lift as much as i can from the big guys.

Haven't seen that one before, thanks.

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sudo wrote

It's a lot more ethical than buying it, yeah. But I wouldn't say it's completely ethical - the store you're shoplifting from will still buy more of the products to replace the stolen ones. It won't affect the evil company that produces the products, just the evil retail company that sells them.

Now, if you shoplift store brands, then I'd say that's ethical consumption, since the company that produces it is the same one that sells it.

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selver wrote

Total support for it. I don't do it much since I don't need to, but if you don't need to but get off on it, then by all means steal as much as you want.

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Dumai wrote

i don't, but i support those who have to.

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dele_ted wrote

What about shoplifting even if you don't "have to", as in, you have enough to buy the item without it being a big deal?

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Dumai wrote

i think shoplifting can definitely be a political act even outside of immediate need, but i'm not sure i like the thought of people who are comfortably middle or upper class messing around with shoplifting. but definitely not because i'm concerned with property rights. i might have to give it some deeper thought!

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Pirate wrote

I suck at that sort of stuff and somewhat fear getting caught, but my (oddly enough) liberal friend does, and I support it.

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Jessica wrote

Absolutely not. Shoplifting is such petty crime with personal benefit, so any justification for it is rationalizing self-indulgence and not a cause.

I don't like stealing because it deprives another person of an item. It doesn't matter if the item is owned by a large store or business. If the thief is desperate for food then I think it's forgivable to steal food.

I am OK with stealing if it is not for personal benefit, such as throwing tea into the harbor to make a point of resistance. Allegedly some of the Sons of Liberty were stuffing tea leaves into their pockets and were promptly yelled at since that would degrade the message they were sending.

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Dumai wrote

Shoplifting is such petty crime with personal benefit, so any justification for it is rationalizing self-indulgence and not a cause.

the personal is political and frankly i'm more here for people who shoplift because they have certain needs and want to hit back at a system that denied them the right to fullfill them than i am for people who only think about politics in terms of "causes"

I don't like stealing because it deprives another person of an item. It doesn't matter if the item is owned by a large store or business.

in my opinion it kind of does! those are the organisations we want to expropriate anyway

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Jessica wrote

My primary objection is that stealing is so easy to claim as being part of some cause when really it's a rationalization for shitty behavior.