dele_ted wrote (edited )
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If you just get rid of the whole system overnight, a lot of people will get hurt
Of course, but you're missing something here. The state is not the only entity based on hierarchy. There's corporations, gangs and so on. If the state simply broke overnight, it would leave an enormous power vacuum, and all the other hierarchic entities would start fighting to fill the vacuum. If there's anything worse than being dominated by a single entity, it's being dominated by multiple entities all clashing for power.
Anarchism isn't as simple as "smash the state = love and peace". Anarchism means abolishing hierarchy altogether.
Since it's literally the only method we have within the confines of our system.
Let's get rid of the confines of our system then. It's obviously oppressive, and you just agreed, why are you trying to thrive in an oppressive system, instead of fighting to get rid of it?
Shandy OP wrote
Because I'm a reasonable and logical person who knows getting rid of it would just result in utter chaos. We can't destroy our wonderful and thriving civilization just so you get to live as some kind of holier than thou political activist. We need hierarchies for certain things, I mean, even nature has natural hierarchies... Food chains... It's unavoidable. If we don't elect leaders, we'll have no direction, no one to guide us forward (or backwards, in president Trump's case). But at least its a direction, anything is better than just not trying at all.
dele_ted wrote
I'm a reasonable and logical person who knows getting rid of it would just result in utter chaos
I just explained this to you. Getting rid of the state, or "the system" as you call it, will inevitably result in chaos - but that's not anarchism. Read my reply above again, i think you misunderstood something.
just so you get to live as some kind of holier than thou political activist
If you want to understand anything about anarchism, if you actually want an answer to your question, put aside your generalizations and misconceptions. Gets us nowhere.
We need hierarchies for certain things, I mean, even nature has natural hierarchies
No, we don't need hierarchies. We can thrive without hierarchies, in a world where you help your neighbor because he helps you. We've effectively signed out of nature, we are not animals and we are not bound to primitivism.
If we don't elect leaders, we'll have no direction, no one to guide us forward
Leaders is one thing. Leaders can exist without authority. An anarchist society that would have to defend itself against invading capitalist armies would of course have leaders, tacticians that know which move would be the best, and how that move would be executed. The people of the army trust their tactician because tactics is his field, and the tactician trust the fighters because that is their field. However, that's not hierarchy, that's mutual benefit.
anything is better than just not trying at all
Again, put aside your judgemental misconceptions.
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