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What is your stance on self-defense and weapon laws?

Submitted by dele_ted in AskRaddle

I usually carry a short, folded knife in an inner pocket relatively hidden in my jacket. Where i live, in Denmark, carrying any sort of weapon in public, including knives of any length and airsoft guns, is completely illegal, unless you have a reason that the state considers valid and have friends or family that can confirm this, such as going fishing or hunting. Small gangs are pretty prominent in some parts of town, and i like knowing that i have the ability to defend myself if it ever comes down to that, or at least scare away attackers. I personally feel that these extreme weapon and self-defense laws are over the top, but i wanted to hear other opinions.

So, Raddle, how do you feel about weapon and self-defense laws?

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[deleted] wrote (edited )

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dele_ted wrote

I feel exactly the same way, you explained it very precisely (..if that's a real word?)

Denmark is in general very, very friendly, and almost all people here are super nice, but there are some (few, but still) areas where you have to watch your back from time to time if it's late. I personally don't feel like i need weapons, but the thought of not being able to get one, and the risk of getting punished if i decided to carry a short knife and got checked by the cops is not one i enjoy. Then again, that goes for most of the laws we have here.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I want the death of law, lawlike-thinking and normativity.

Where I am from, there is no significant gun control debate. There are strict rules around who might own a gun legally, but illegal guns are very easy to get your hands on. Nobody cares about whether it's illegal to carry knives or whatever, enough that I don't even know if there are laws for it.

I don't do much to defend myself, for a handful of reasons.

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dele_ted wrote

I think most of us on here, including me, hate the law and the institutions that enforce it deeply. I might have worded my question badly, what i meant to ask was: as things are right now, in a capitalist society, how do you feel about weapon and self-defense laws?

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Tequila_Wolf wrote (edited )

I understood your meaning.

I'm not familiar with any research in my area (and I think it doesn't exist) around what might be different if laws were different. Certainly none exists that is done by anti-authoritarians.

As I said, it's easy to get guns illegally, so it doesn't necessarily affect much whether people have guns. I don't think laws are an effective way of keeping people safe, right now and in general.

So my answer is that I want the death of the laws.

Edit: Am I missing something? As I said, there is no debate on this issue where I am.

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dele_ted wrote

I get what you're saying now, thanks. I guess the whole debate is pretty unnecessary when the rules aren't enforced as stricly as they are here in Scandinavia.

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libre_dev wrote

I don't feel the need for a weapon so I don't carry any. The local fash are extremely stupid amphetamine addicts

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zombie_berkman wrote

I own 5 firearms and plan for a few more. I do have self defense firearms but dont ccw. IMO if you are anti firearms you are anti left

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DeathToAmerica wrote

Not all of us live in countries where the police are armed and the military is for invasion.

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surreal wrote

how will firearms save you vs drones or nukes? think of bows and swords vs machine guns and tanks. this could also read "if you are anti bows you are anti left".

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selver wrote (edited )

Fash don't have drones or nukes, there are enemies other than the State.

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zombie_berkman wrote

oh yeah i forgot because they dont protect me from nukes i cant use them to protect my house that had a menorah in the window where a neo nazi that bragged about shooting a woman in the face passed out anti semitic stickers in the largest jewish community outside of nyc. also its totally pointless to arm yourself when the otherside is armed to the teeth because of muh nukez. also for over 200 years leftists have been talking about the armed proletariat but i guess fred hampton did know about nukes. fuck off

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surreal wrote

owing more guns that you can hold is not safe, arming the enemy by mistake is easy cause everyone will going to want that treasure in case of need, don't spread the news around provoking the enemy to use other means, the fight won't be fair, having a gun does nothing vs poison, don't think you are secure just by owning firearms.

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zombie_berkman wrote

how about you quit talking about shit you have no clue about. they all are kept under lock and key with the exception of the one i use for defense. also they all server difference purposes. i have a hunting rifle, a hunting shotgun, an AR15, a target shooting pistol, and my homedefense gun. and i got news for you, the 3% exist near me, and they are fucking walking around at protests armed to the teeth and fucking hate my politics. please go back to licking boots in your country. thanks

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surreal wrote

then gtfo of there Rambo. btw who do you think earns money by you buying shiny guns? they are arming you so they will have one more reason to put you down. Well if nobody had guns in your town then that shit wouldn't be a problem, hard to make that logic leap? fking murica selling shit to scared people

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zombie_berkman wrote (edited )

Because buying used isn't a thing... a yeah well that doesn't work there are ~2billion guns in the us mostly in the hands of fash and police. Your opinion is totally null and void since you have no basis in reality. Would you also like to see my body armor? I bet the fact that im protecting myself really pisses you off too. Can you please fuck off to manarchism online with the other anarcholiberals? Youd fit right in with them

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surreal wrote (edited )

your assumptions are stupid as fuck and are based on the fact that someone argued with you about your false sense of safety and only.

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zombie_berkman wrote

So would you use the same stupid fucking logic on a sexual assault victim? Well noone should be raping people so just do rape people and everyone is good! I had a fucking gun shoved in my face when I.was robbed in college. Shut the fuck up. I really hope some fuck puts a gun in your face and you try the same liberal bootlicker shit.if literally pay good money to watch you piss your pants while you tell a Nazi that noone should have guns while you are tempting your fucking wallet. Get fucked asshole

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surreal wrote

No, the same logic doesnt apply to other examples you happen to come up with and are out of the point. So you would pay nazis money for watching me piss myself, maybe you should join them then and watch it for free and keep the money for the guns they selling to you.

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zombie_berkman wrote

owing more guns that you can hold is not safe

also am i detecting ableism?

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surreal wrote

srly dude? albeism?

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zombie_berkman wrote

You said they should only have what they can carry. I had a friend in elementary school where his dad lost an arm and he could hunt deer perfectly fine. But your logic I can have twice as many guns. Seriously go.back to lala land while people that are in touch with reality talk

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surreal wrote

Muricans with guns in touch of reality, funny

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zombie_berkman wrote

Yeah the reality is that ive been robbed at gun point, live in a high traffic area, and have heavily armed neonazis in the area. Thanks for saying what the state should and shouldn't allow me to do. Its super ananarchist of yourself.

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Whatsthepoint wrote

Lethal weapons should be illegal.

There are few situations you can't get out of with a strong small torch and being light footed.

Often when people talk about the importance of weapons, what they mean deep down, is they place their own pride and consumerist property above a human life.

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dele_ted wrote

Lethal weapons absolutely shouldn't be illegal, that would simply make them more difficult for the average Joe to obtain, and would put them in the hands of those that are on the other side of the law anyways (such as gangs and other criminals).

It would be awesome if we could completely get rid of lethal weapons, but that's not possible as it is now. One thing is for sure: laws won't fix shit.