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Bezotcovschina wrote

I wanted to say that, in my opinion, no suffering of human workers even comparable to the suffering of animals being borne, living and dying in a state of constant torture, so it shouldn't ever be a matter on a topic about veganism

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rattledlove1139 wrote

I do not know if really agree irrelevant, suffering is not "better" just because have some understanding in situation, and should care for affected humans too. Even relief human workers may get do not negate how much suffer in rest of that time.
Whole food and job system need to change, until bigger and better changes set in there is suffering all over. Unless can 100% provide for self but that is not really viable position right now for almost everyone.
I have my goals too (maybe when less tired i will talk more about my wishes for how things could be) but right now need to focus on eating disorder first. So unfortunately for me goals DO need wait. I wish could just say "I caused no suffering" but regardless choice I can not, I make peace with that

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