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monday wrote

I think an affinity group need to be irl

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Majrelende OP wrote (edited )

I thought so too, but I recently heard of a group that met over Zoom which called itself an affinity group.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

yeah illegal online activity has to be a trustless system. I would not do online activities of that nature with people I got to intimately know of the internet. Thats just terrible advice that will get you prison cell. Idk I think this is only contentious if you think raddle is an affinity group. Which I guess maybe but when people say affinity group they don't mean just people doing stuff together.

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ghost wrote

Nah. Requiring groups to be offline to be legitimate just excludes disabled people and folks in rural areas without transpo.

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monday wrote

I don't bite it. This is the same argument when someone say that anticiv is ableist

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ghost wrote

Definitely plenty of mischiefs that can be done online.

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monday wrote

This is my opinion only, I think an affinity group is something more intimate than the average direct action group. For me an affinity group should be able to replace a family dynamics if possible, maybe this is Avery particular interpretation.

My only point to ghost comment was to dismiss internet as the only enabler of disabled or off grid people.

And about Raddle being an affinity group Im sure that it isn't.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

I actually agree with this interpretation of affinity group. Affinity implies a close relationship. Which is the whole reason they are hard to infiltrate. Anything online is just a group.

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ghost wrote

If your anticiv excludes the needs of disabled people, then it is, in fact, ableist.

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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

Do you think burning down the only hospital in town (without killing or hurting any patients) is ableist?

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Fool wrote

Raddle is an online market (meeting place)

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ChaosAnarchy wrote

No Patrick, Raddle is not an affinity group.

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capitan wrote

I don't think it is even close. It is certainly one of the more tight knit forums on the internet, but an affinity group implies a very tight, private bond between a few people. There are dozens of us on Raddle! And we talk out in the open!

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lettuceLeafer wrote

Plus at this point the chance of a FBI official not at least browsing Raddle is incredibly low. A popular onion sink link agregarte threw Raddle in with basically a list mostly for selling drugs and doing hacking. And monitoring said websites are FBI procedure. So now they are on list that the FBI almost certainly checks in on.

This can't possible be an affinity group because the FBI literally is a part of it lol.

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asterism wrote

Too bad it isn't the CIA. Maybe they would give us funding.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

It actually could be conceivable that the US could get funding. Just be anarchists in a war torn area with a sizable insurgency. They basically just find you so you kill their enemy and the US looses no resrouces and doesn't have to deal with diplomatic backlash of war.

So like getting funding isn't inconsivable for anarchists .

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ghost wrote

Sure. I think so.

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roanoke9 wrote

All of raddle is far too large a group for that. Irl or online, an affinity group should be on the small side imo. There are other reasons but that alone disqualifies it for me. Personally, if someone suggested Zoom for that, I'm out.

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