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Majrelende wrote (edited )

I think that if there is a chance of transforming authoritarian familial relationships into egalitarian or anarchic ones, it should be taken. Strong social bonds are, from what I know, very important for cultural resilience, and family bonds, because they don't tend to end until death, can be very strong.

Authority finds it easiest to conquer when people are atomised and disconnected; it finds its power in the lack of healthy human society. Any strong relationships are important to try to enhance and maintain in this light.

In general we may not want to reject and divide, because that feeds Leviathan; it may be better to accept, enfold, consider.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

this is actually why I asked the question. I feel there are reasons to maintain familial bonds for anarchist reasons tho I don't have any good reasons. The interact with them if you want or don't is what I expected but I think there is a hot take to be had I can't think of. Organized crime often relies heavily on familial bonds for several reasons and a big one being you can have a large group without infiltration. Or with people you grew up with so you bc you know if they were ever a cop. And like historically the whole separate from your parents at a young age from my understanding is a pretty new capitalist concept. Which I ovi like but I imagine there is a critique to be had of it.

So i'm glad someone else kinda sees how bio family has some anarchist merit. Sadly I don't have any unique thoughts on it other than that

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Fool wrote

historically the whole separate from your parents at a young age from my understanding is a pretty new capitalist concept

While recent history is fairly against it, I think it was fairly normal for children in more communal society to be independent of parents. With children gravitating to children's groups or adults more inclined towards raising children.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

hmm, I actually don't know that much anthrology. But its cool that that is something that could be cool for me to learn about

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Fool wrote

I came across this since the previous comment: about the Yamagishi Movement, which started in Japan in the 1960s and are still around.

When kids turn ten years old they generally move out of their parents’ apartment on the jikkenchi and into a dormitory with other Yamagishi kids. Parents maintain intimate ties, but from then on children are more a part of the community than an individual family. Boarding schools in Britain might work in a similar way, but children are still thought to primarily belong to the family rather than the school community. At Yamagishi, rather than direct parental authority, “all the adults are responsible for seeing to the welfare and safety of the children.” [3] Rather than idyllic, the results are, like the results of mainstream society, mixed.

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