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moonlune wrote (edited )

bodily autonomy

male cats rape and have spikes on their dicks.

Are you suggesting to let people's pets eat and kill to near extinction local wildlife like they did in new zealand?

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vos wrote

Maybe if those people you call 'wildlife' hadn't had a lot of their habitats destroyed by humans, they wouldn't now be near extinct. And maybe if humans didn't massively sexually exploit the nonhumans you call 'pets', their numbers wouldn't be so high in the first place. My point is, this is the fault of humans and punishing nonhumans for our mess is messed up. So yeah, only thing that rests us now is to cope with the consequences of our actions. And of course fight civilization.

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Bezotcovschina OP wrote

male cats rape and have spikes on their dicks

Hmmmm... I don't get your point. How it's relevant?

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moonlune wrote

I was implying that not sterilizing cats because of "bodily autonomy" is an interesting idea when cats have rape built into their reproduction. It was mostly a gotcha argument, I didn't think much more about it.

The idea that cat sterilization is speceist is nonsense for me anyways.

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vos wrote (edited )

The idea that cat sterilization is speceist is nonsense for me anyways.

Now replace 'cat' with any other marginalized identity and 'speciesist' with the corresponding oppression this identity faces. It's not speciesist for you because you're speciesist.

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moonlune wrote (edited )

I'm antinatalist lol, I want humans sterilized too I don't discriminate based on species.

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moonlune wrote (edited )

well we could also lock people up so that they can't meet other people & reproduce or destroy wildlife while playing, but the ethics of locking people up isn't great...

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