Submitted by _caspar_ in AskRaddle

has anyone found anything about astrology helpful or interesting? are there any guides/interpretations you have found more worthwhile than the countless super goofy cookie-cutter sites out there?

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Tequilx_Wolf wrote

Nothing helpful or interesting, I think it's overall bad for us.

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kin wrote

Maybe Carl Jung? I don't think I know any sources that don't go into Occult stuff, if you want to go more scientific maybe semiotics can be a good place to search for references.

And there are two diff systems, the "regular" one and sideral astrology, used by Hindu astrology for example. It's strange bc sideral astrology follows the real movement of the constellations instead of the fixed points. Many skeptic's critiques against regular Astrology only works for sideral Astrology, like including Ophiuchus as the 13th sign and all that crap.

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_caspar_ OP wrote

could you explain a bit why you think its bad? it definitely seems to attract alot of cringeworthy language, terrible aesthetics, and new age garbage, but maybe thats just my surface impression and why I was always allergic to it.

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existential1 wrote (edited )

I agree with things being framed in feminine/masculine too much (I know nothing about astrology), but I agree strongly with the idea of duality in a lot of metaphysics and here, I would argue your framing with the last bit as I believe the proper duality for trans would be binary in-general. For example, abstract masc/fem duality into the object "A" and now object "A" is the proper duality to be compared to trans...maybe. I'm not sold cuz maybe it's binary/enby...but you get the idea. Instead of trying to mold one thing into a certain duality, abstract/synthesize to proper scale for comparison.

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d4rk wrote

Really great as a coping mechanism

But those who actually believe in the overall metanarrative of it should join the other radical determinists in hell.

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_caspar_ OP wrote

essentialism generally, and gender essentialism specifically, along with the Manichean dark vs light struggle and its many iterations, also lead me to reject most spiritualist frameworks.

Im still open to the yin yang concept which comes close, but as far as I understand it, its not a duality (either/or) so much as a both/and (dualistic monism maybe?).

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nulloperation wrote

I find that an astrological assertion can often be the opposite of empathy, or pretend-empathy. For example, "You are Taurus so you must be very ambitious," rather than actually trying to understand people. I strongly prefer something like NVC to astrology for understanding and connection with others.

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Tequilx_Wolf wrote (edited )

Magical/religous thinking of the wholly undesirable kind, which predisposes others to other shittier forms of it, combined with identity politics of the most unnecessary baseless kind - a whole bunch of transcendent impositions from abstractions that have nothing to do with reality beyond how much power we let them have over us.

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MatthiasEllis wrote (edited )

Hi there! Well, I'm very fond of this ancient practice. I love that it helps me gain insight into my personality and sometimes explains my feelings. Furthermore, I'm convinced that the alignment of celestial bodies at the time of a person's birth has a direct influence on their life. Besides astrology, I'm into psychic reading. These are the ways I try to understand my life, thoughts and future events. So when it comes to supra natural powers, I'm all eyes and ears. I'm curious to find out about your opinion, though.

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