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on July 12, 2021 at 5:06 AM in AskRaddle
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This is a bit like the "but would you eat meat if you were on a desert island?" question that vegans often get asked.
The sad thing is though for abolitionists, we are living on the desert island when it comes to having alternatives to the police. One of the things that makes it very easy for me to not call the police is that they are terrible at doing any of the things you think they will help you with.
If you hear your neighbor have a serious argument and you worry that someone might get hurt, chances are you'll have a better result just knocking on the door and being non-confrontational.
If your house has been burgled and you need to claim on your insurance, there's probably not much harm calling the police and getting your crime reference number because the police aren't actually going to catch anyone.
The important question is probably what can I do now so I don't need to call the police in the future?
I suppose it's situational. There would probably be some situations where calling them would be appropriate, as unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of options otherwise in the case where such services are needed. Though, calling them would still be a last recourse sort of deal. So...yes.
Hm. Is there a difference between calling the police and calling the police on someone?
Insurance claims might need a police report, but, eh.
Came here for this. With car theft, accidents (even if you're by yourself if damages someone elses property too), or like home breakins that happen while youre out insurance will need report.
probably. I'm a coward.
if someone kidnapped one of my kids
didn't you learn anything from mel gibson's Ransom? calling the cops just gets the kid killed. you need to go on live tv and put a bounty on the kidnapper
that only works if you are a millionaire
they wouldn’t put me on tv for two match boxes and an apple
well no one is gonna ransom your kid if you're not worth at least a mil
but news media told me everyone is out to get me!!
I did once because a violent shitty person was banging on my door trying to fight me and I only did so to have a record of that in case I had to defend myself against him in the future, so that I wouldn't (hopefully) get arrested/charged myself. Other than it being a case of covering my own ass, I wouldn't ever think of calling them.
In the heat of the moment I was just incredibly angry that this person was threatening me with my partner and our cat in the apartment as well. I should also mention I did not see this guy before and had no idea why he was pounding on both of my doors and threatening me. I was shouting back with a knife in my hand ready to defend myself. Afterwards though I was very unsettled because as far as I knew this guy was involved with the person who lived two floors below me so I was afraid he would come back. I also found out through a friend that this guy was violent, abusive and possibly armed so yeah I was ready to fight for my life for a couple days there until I figured he wasn't coming back around. I've since moved out of that shitty overpriced slum into a more quiet area (with lots of pretty trees) so I'm doing good now. Buying a gun soon also lol.
The likelyhood of cops making a situation worse by being there in any given situation is high enough that I'll safely go with "no".
i'd just take care of them myself
The question is always, "Would cops showing up and randomly killing people improve the situation?"
There are rare circumstances where this may be desirable, mostly situations where someone is already killing people, so adding more killers is likely the best of several bad options. But in most cases random death is not what you want, and therefore the police should be abolished, not summoned.
I think I would call EMS if someone was going to die which inadvertently calls the police. I would shout that cops are coming after I call tho.
I would never purposefully call the police unless it was in a really tragic scenario where I need to cover myself from liability i.e. someone gets shot in front of my apartment and I find them after waking up.
No, I also extend this to all "Emergency Services". I've been robbed and haven't called, asked if I've seen missing people and refused to answer, and have told people I won't call EMS for them.
No. I am personally not a fan of those who are insincere in these sorts of online discussions.
No I would never call EMS for anyone. And while i wouldn't report a missing person for the same reason I said I didn't answer questions about a missing person. But the reason for both is I don't think one should talk to cops.
I would not take them to a hospital no, nor call the EMS or anyone else to take them.
this is definitely a troll account, don't sweat it
I am opposed to the state, and to civilized medicine and I do not want to rely on/reproduce these institutions in my lifestyle.
Medicine produced by civilization. Perlman discusses this a bit at the end of Against His-Story Against Leviathan, as well his other critiques of the specialization of labor are applicable. But yes I would.
I initially liked this idea because it's very funny but I don't think it would foster a healthy community!
Not if someone's life depended on it
Never really had to. Or, more precisely, I had to once - I was young, I was heavily beaten, I woke up in a hospital ward and there were cops, I was frustrated and ill-informed, so, yeah, I filed an official report. I've regretted it shortly after, because I have no desire to collaborate with cops, and they started to threaten me with making me being prosecuted as an initiator of the fight if I wouldn't collaborate with them. It have ended relatively well with no one being prosecuted.