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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

Why can't we just save ourselves for its own sake?

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Shittles wrote

Why can't we just save ourselves for its own sake?

Because we are too busy being what we are. A great question was formed in the collective mind of the 50's, posed in the 60's, argued for the last 40 years and the answer seems to be getting louder in the 21st century; No. We will not get our shit together in time to save ourselves. And forget this "Tough Humans" crap... let's see us be tough enough to cope with no pollinators, dying oceans, runaway greenhouse, coastal flooding, and a 1% that will probably wind up on Antarctica in a walled city-state drinking smoking and snorting whats left of the Good Stuff while the rest of us die choking. The mythical Average American would drive their SUV down a street paved with live babies if it would get them one last tank of gas, one last month of cable, one last Dominos gorge, one last week of rent and a bag of anything that takes the pain away, one last dose of Fukitol.

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote (edited )

We will not get our shit together in time to save ourselves.

Not with that attitude.

I say we start a socialist space program. And then we take over the moon.

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Shittles wrote

Not with that attitude.

But that's the attitude out there. Tapping your footie won't change that. And a dead-head run to the moon is pointless; there's nothing there, remember? Hawking is right; we have an unknown finite time during which we can save our species by leaving the nest for an interstellar destination, and if we don't pull it off we'll either fade away or push the button and burn. Sad! As a certain orange tinted anus in a shirt would say.