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86944 wrote

I can't really recommend it. Unless you're already a skilled worker in a field with high demand there's nothing here for you except inadequate wages and the most expensive health care anywhere.

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CaptainACAB wrote

How much do you like corn? Most of everything here is derived from corn.

Unless you work from home, prepare to eat a lot of fast food; if you do work from home, prepare to hate your home as you associate being there with working. And also to order a lot of food if you have no one else who is willing to cook for you.

This is to say nothing about our culture, health care, or how most of the US treats immigrants, I'm sure those will come up soon.

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Fool wrote

Oh, it's not really mine, but you may borrow it, if you want.

... In regards to your question; it "is there" because a bunch of people agreed that it exists in that location. For various reasons others have chosen to accept that as reality, but I think they're lying since there was already a bunch of nations there. Come on everyone, they were there first and they're happy to share, maybe you could call them First nations or something. I'm thinking they'll figure out how silly they're acting any day now.

Sorry if this hasn't really answered your question. I am not from the USA so I can't really comment.

Lots of rich Americans are buying their way into Australia due to Covid, so you could try there. Australia likes to put their concentration camps on tropical islands, so that could be nicer than the US ones if you're wanting to be smuggled in.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

Lots of rich Americans are buying their way into Australia due to Covid, so you could try there. Australia likes to put their concentration camps on tropical islands, so that could be nicer than the US ones if you're wanting to be smuggled in.

Well, hopefully I make it to the somewhat larger island, instead of being stuck on one of the smaller ones.

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ruin wrote

Based on discussions with friends who moved here from Europe, it’s either the land of freedom and opportunity or a terrifying hell scape of danger and uncertainty. Seems to depend on how much you value economic and health benefits available in your current nation.

Either way, it’s ok. There’s good and bad, like anywhere. The diverse geography is pretty cool. Lots of very different climates and landscapes to explore with minimal impediments to travel.

You can usually pick up and move place to place pretty easily as long as you’re willing to work a shit job for a minute to get settled.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

work a shit job for a minute to get settled.

that seems to be the predicament, doesn't it?

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

Thank you for your replies, this was an interesting discussion.

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cdubose wrote

I know this thread is a two weeks old now, but: why are you considering moving to the US? (I ask as an American who hates living here.)

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kano wrote (edited )

I was born and grew up in the United States and I left permanently directly after finishing school. My father came to the United States and is now thinking about leaving it, along with my mother and sister. Some of my friends I had growing up there are trying to or have already left as well.

So I don't know a lot about immigrating to the States or living and working there as an adult. But I think its pretty hard to come here legally(its also hard illegally) depending on where you come from. Salaries can seem higher there then they do in the other countries I lived, but those other countries tend to do things like giving you healthcare, so your costs will also go up a lot as well. And depending on where you live you are really going to need a car, and housing can be really expensive.

The weed in the US is really good even in the states where its not legal & its super easy to get prescription drugs.

I personally find a lot of Americans really obnoxious and I tend to avoid them now that I'm abroad.

American cops are real assholes.

American people tend to be pretty easy to speak to and are more friendly then other places I've lived.

You can get good corn cobs there all the time which is a big benefit.

Its a big country with a diverse geography, climate, and culture.

Its really easy to lead an unhealthy lifestyle there.

If you are white and speak English with a minimal accent you will probably not face too many issues as an immigrant in my experience. If you speak with a British accent then everyone will want to sleep with you, but they'll probably say something about tea and crumpets first.

If you speak Spanish and not English then there are definitely parts of the country, or parts of various cities that you can go too where you don't really have to speak English, but good luck reading this.

University can be really expensive here, health care can be really expensive here, you are not guaranteed parental leave by law, so if you plan to have children I might have second thoughts, though anyone born here is automatically a US citizen which is a benefit. (and I know people whose parents specifically bore them in the US for this reason)

I don't really want to go live there again, but I would like to take an extended trip there, see what's going on.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

The weed in the US is really good even in the states where its not legal & its super easy to get prescription drugs.

I personally find a lot of Americans really obnoxious and I tend to avoid them now that I'm abroad.

the meme of the man choosing between two buttons

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_caspar_ wrote (edited )

it greatly depends. what you are looking for? or rather, what type of environment and lifestyle suits you?

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

A place for strange girls to be gay, where I can run a small business with no employees

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_caspar_ wrote

"A place for strange girls to be gay"

could be anywhere really, but urban areas/college towns seem less hostile.

"run a small business with no employees"

they call that self-employment. theres a tax return specifically for that.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

it would have to definitely be an urban place, i think. the outskirts, probably.

where has the lowest self-employment tax?

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moonlune wrote (edited )

As an European, this is how I understand it: f you're very good at something and ready to play their game, you've got potential to make bank and have a very good life. If you're average or don't want to live for your job, it's better to stay in Europe and take advantage of our worker protections.

Also, with the amount of guns and religious fanatics and individualistic mentality, the usa are probably not the best place to live through an environnemental collapse ( and following potential civil war) in a few decades.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

That's a good point. maybe get out, before things get too bad? How terrible are the regulations there? It seems like a wild west on the movie screen, but that seems like an illusion or projected self-image.

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groovygardener42069 wrote

I'd say it depends on where you're coming from and what you're looking for.

There's just so much diversity, geographically and culturally.

I'm not sure I'd want to move to the US from a place with lots of economic opportunity and free health care, but it's probably a step up from areas of the world that do not have that luxury.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

Where would I fit in best?

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groovygardener42069 wrote

I don't know you, so that's hard to say.

Don't like the cold, want to be around other immigrant communities in a fairly "progressive" (for the southern US) city? Try, Houston, Phoenix, or Tampa. If you got a little money to burn, there's Miami and Atlanta too.

Wanna be around a bunch of anarchists and like actual nazis to hunt down for sport in your spare time? Pacific Northwest

Like the cold and an element of danger wherever you go? Try Alaska, Montana, or the Dakotas. If you'd prefer that in an urban environment there's always the entire New England coast to choose from

As a general rule, avoid states that are just like, polygon shapes.

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celebratedrecluse OP wrote

As a general rule, avoid states that are just like, polygon shapes.

I will keep this in mind

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