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LostYonder wrote

Miles Davis - 'Round About Midnight

Sachal Jazz Orchestra's rendition of Brubeck's Take Five

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kin wrote

Nice suggestions from u/subrosa and u/LostYonder

I think I still learning to like jazz, first acidJazz and tangent styles bossa nova etc. Having a soft spot for Ska (jamaican ska, like skatalites) and Afrobeat helped me dive into it.

Like was said, jazz is huge so try to find some cross genre at first.

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote (edited )

This version of Coltrane's Alabama is so far the only jazz song I find outstanding. I'd really love to develop an appreciation for it further.

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

A few people have recommended Miles Davis, I didn't immediately work with that song so hopefully I find some other stuff of his to start with.

I don't like Take Five, but was glad for the opportunity to listen to the Sachal Orchestra version.

Thanks!

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zddy wrote (edited )

Thelonius Monk - Straight, No Chaser

Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

Herbie Hancock - Headhunters ( more funk and bebop)

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

Ok I listened to all of these. I think part of my problem is that I associate jazz with some strange things that make it hard to connect to the music.

The only one I liked right away was the Theme Nothing track. The search continues! I think I'll try more of their stuff. Their most popular song on Spotify is called prayer for amerikkka pt 1 and 2, so that seems like it might be interesting.

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kin wrote

Sure ;)

for Afrobeat go to Fela Kuti. Once on a while a I post afrobeat tunes, because I have the need come back to this genre

Bossa Nova, I usually tend to like more the contemporary approach, I think many loFi beats use bossa nova instrumentals. Maybe you find Bossa Nova more accessible.

Bebop, the kind of the subgenre that reinvented jazz, rapid stuff.

Acid Jazz, look into Jamiroquai stuff too. This genre is a mix between RnB Funk Soul and Jazz.

Ska, skatalites covering Coltrane I believe.

Fusion, is jazz with rock, kind of what Zappa like to do.

And Sons of Kemet they are magical

And maybe try to focus on instruments, like Coltrane stuff is sax, if you like piano maybe Thelonious Monk is your guy

Feel free anyone to correct me, by no means I am a critic or whatsoever xD

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NOISEBOB wrote

Albert Ayler Don Cherry "mu-something"

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zddy wrote

For some reason "bop" made me think of cowboy bebop and its opener "Tank!" which is quite possibly the entry point of my interest in jazz.

So secondary recommendation: Tank! From Cowboy Bebop

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

This is very helpful, thank you.

The Bossa Nova and Ska examples are pretty nice and based on a couple songs I think Sons of Kemet is my favourite recommendation so far.

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existential1 wrote (edited )

Here's a pandora station that I've curated for a business I used to run. It's all blues and jazz. I can now listen for hours without ever skipping songs. I'd recommend exploring artists who sing songs you like a lot whenever they come up. There are sooo many ways to go with jazz and blues, so just dive in and explore.

https://pandora.app.link/sA02HZJcebb

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

I'm not sure how to relate to how (especially with what I assume is the older stuff) much of these songs are some person playing tik-ki-stee tik-ki-stee tik-ki-stee on the drums while some other person plays a bass like walking down a staircase and then there's just a piano or a sax or a trumpet that grabs onto something in bits but otherwise just kinda upping and downing and speeding and slowing like a small plumey fish in water and that's most of the song.

I'm not sure what I'm missing :/

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existential1 wrote

Check out the songs that pop-up on the pandora station I linked earlier. I think there's a big separation for vocal vs non-vocal jazz and the quality of the singer too. I selectively enjoy non-vocal jazz and blues, but I really like a lot of the jazz and blues on that station that are mostly vocal tracks.

A lot of non-jazz listeners aren't really conditioned to listen to music without vocals, so it can be quite a barrier to get over. Not saying that's your deal, but I've had a lot of conversations with family about it.

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Ennui wrote

I used to be big on Mingus and Coltrane, but now I gravitate more towards jazz-rap.

Alfa Mist is my favorite artist. Antiphon, Structuralism, Nocturne, and everything else he's made is good.

Piero Piccioni is just something random I have in my saved albums. Not jazz rap.

The Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble is alright.

Skinshape is a interesting artist with cultural elements. Not even sure if they count as jazz.

And this definitely isn't jazz, but you should listen to Mass of the Fermenting Dregs, Number Girl, and Pechiku!! by Sajjanu.

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stealThaInternet wrote (edited )

I tend to like the old-timey jazz. The static buzz, and wobbly tune, really puts on those nostalgia feelings.

Write yourself a letter fats waller really hit a note with me.

And also I like louis armstrong. as far as other jazz, I just listen, don't know who's playing. I don't really like new jazz too much anything past the 80s really. Latin Jazz is pretty interesting too.

if you wanted to torture me, you'd have me listen to smooth jazz.

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

Asher Gamedze's a southern African artist and also anti-authoritarian anticapitalist whose album Dialectical Soul won a bunch of prizes etc. recently, if anybody's interested.

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

Y'know, it's not that I dislike a lot of this, I just don't particularly get into it, and there are so few situations where I'd usually be able to take 40 minutes to listen to something.

Thanks for the rec.

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subrosa wrote

Yeah, I felt similaraly not too long ago, and I still find it hard to connect a lot of the time. I think I 'learned' to appreciate the art some more by actively listening to musicians playing with music, rather than a song from an album. Rock and electro tends to have a final product, a sum arguably greater than its parts.

Jazz (thinking bebop, and whatever grew out of it) usually has a more improvisational, expressive character. The musicians all share a core structure to build around, but within a fairly complex framework they give each other a lot of room to do their own thing. It's about moments and moods, about pushing the limits of the framework in an alive back-and-forth conversation between musicians. Which is probably why you get a lot of names in jazz: Talented individuals with a unique 'voice' rather than band projects; compositions and takes rather than songs.

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

True anarchist in this post recommending mostly not-jazz!

lol.

That Kilimanjaro Darkjazz wasn't bad! I liked the bits of Alfa Mist that didn't sound like jazz, ha.

Mass of Fermenting Dregs was pretty fun, would have to be a guilty pleasure though.

Thanks!

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Hibiscus_Syrup OP wrote

Lol I wasn't expecting so many responses. I'm down to just this one now. Seems like a good resource! Thank you. I'll take my time with it so you may not hear from me depending on how life sweeps me up.

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_caspar_ wrote

no problem. John Lurie and the Lounge Lizards are a bit more experimental, coming out of what was called No-Wave in 80s NYC. though they had a following, I still think they are underrated. Lurie's paintings and filmwork are worth checking out also.

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