Submitted by Quantum01 in AskRaddle

Do the people of raddle belief the US election is being stolen? I don't worship trump but biden is an idiot. all these ballots just popping up out of nowhere and seeming to be nearly 100% for biden seems a little fishy. also, the poll watchers being blocked and forced out of polling places seems very fishy to me. am i the only one who thinks this?

also, i understand that anarchist dont believe in the systems we have, or the US government. i am not asking if you like the system or policies. but if you can see past those things in order see if its being stolen or not would be great.



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thelegendarybirdmonster wrote

Isn't it following prediction trends as predicted?

In 2016 the results were a surprise because of "shameful right wing" but now that's taken into account there shouldn't be any more surprises.

USamerican politics go to /f/USA please


86944 wrote

You're not alone, but you are wrong. It was obvious that the republicans were trying to steal the election from the start.

Mail in votes are overwhelmingly for biden because trump told people not to mail there's in. (because he was going to destroy the post office) They're not coming out of thin air they're being delivered.

Poll watchers aren't being blocked. There's a maximum number of observers allowed and they were already at capacity.

It's not being stolen, but not for a lack of trying by the republicans.


LostYonder wrote

You are partially right - the election, and democracy in the US in general, has been stolen by a bunch of hypocritical, corrupt, corporate/capitalist cronies who deny people the right of choice by structuring elections around parties and creating false allegiances to centrist, capitalist, and elitist friendly ideologies with no true alternatives!


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LostYonder wrote

Very true! To say it has been stolen or hijacked does in fact ignore the history of "democracy" in the US. I would add that the whole idea of democracy is also corrupt not just from the point of protecting the interests of the elite, but for its utter unethical nature. It is predicated on competition and thus deepens conflicts of interests. Winner takes all, out of touch representatives, and manipulation of policies and rhetoric merely to gain votes is utterly dysfunctional too.

Consensus? Inclusion? Assembly? not part of the "democratic" idea...


masque wrote (edited )

Many people have explained why the more recently-counted votes are heavily favouring Biden, but I feel like someone should emphasize that this isn't just a post-hoc explanation; people already expected this exact scenario weeks (and even months) before the election.

In this video from 2 weeks ago, Bernie Sanders predicts the outcome more-or-less exactly (and he's just echoing what hundreds of others were saying):

My view is, every vote must be counted. For reasons which I don't have the time to get into tonight, you're gonna have a situation, I suspect, in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, other states, where they are going to be receiving huge amounts of mail-in ballots, and unlike states like Florida or Vermont, they'll not be able (for bad reasons) to begin processing those ballots until, I dunno, election day, or maybe when the polls close. That means you're gonna have states dealing with perhaps millions of mail-in ballots.

Here is my worry: what polls show and what studies have shown is that, for whatever reason, Democrats are more likely to use mail-in ballots. Republicans are more likely to walk in to polling booths on election day. It is likely that the first votes that will be counted will be those people who came in on election day, which will be Republican.

And here is the fear, and I hope everybody hears it: It could well be - I don't know what's going to happen, nobody does - but it could well be that at 10:00 on election night, Trump is winning in MI, in PA, WI, and he gets on the television and says "thank you Americans for re-electing me, it's all over, have a good day!" But then the next day, and the day following, all those mail-in ballots start getting counted, and it turns out that Biden has won those states, at which point Trump says "See! I told you the whole thing was fraudulent! I told you those mail-in ballots were crooked! And I got, y'know, we're not gonna leave office." So that is a worry that I and a lot of people have.

That's what I was referring to when I made this post.


NoPoint wrote

yeah the electoral college is stealing the election. hopefully all of the electors find their way to mars.