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celebratedrecluse wrote

successful defined how?

removing a government?

or precluding the re-emergence of a government?

or suppressing embodied hierarchies in all their forms (sexism, classism, ableism, racism, etc)

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Majrelende wrote

All of these, but they may not happen simultaneously.

I may be referring to a process rather than an event: the removal of archy and the healing of the social and ecological wounds associated with it. This could just involve a few squatters reaching for self-sufficiency or a regional uprising, maybe even a widespread one, seeing how quickly a spark of discontent can give rise to a number of protest movements in such a quasi-connected world.

I suppose, though, that this kind of speculation is more harmful than helpful if taken seriously.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

I suppose, though, that this kind of speculation is more harmful than helpful if taken seriously.

Do you want to elaborate? You have piqued my curiosity.

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Majrelende wrote

The best I can say is that so many ideologies and ideas proclaim that they know how society works and usually prove themselves either incorrect or acontextual, or those in authority change all of their definitions as soon as people find that something is wrong. I know little about what can help or detract from a rebellion, but I suspect that a false sense of knowledge that leads people to counterintuitive actions and unnatural ideas is more harmful than helpful.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Perhaps, but I think all we can do is to keep talking. I'm glad you shared what you were thinking, it helps us all whether the conclusions are adaptive or not, because we are all in a giant ongoing experiment of freedom

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