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CPUSA OP wrote

It's easy for Western leftists to conflate their capitalist states with socialist ones, but I assure you they are entirely different beasts. The socialist state only exists to serve the people. The capitalist state only serves capitalism.

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catachresis wrote

Do you live in a socialist state? I'm not conflating them. The state still doesn't care about you. A state might take care of you, or a public servant might care for you. Either way you are still a pawn in the State's game. The answer isn't what you think it is.

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ComradeXi wrote

I do not live in a socialist state currently but I lived in China for two years and 3 months for work. A socialist state (not a social democracy) only exists to serve its people. I saw this with my own eyes while living in China. The state punishes capitalists who break the law.

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catachresis wrote

A socialist state only exists to serve its people.

How do the people choose how they want to get served? Doesn't the government end up choosing for them?

I might be able to agree with you that a socialist state is the best state. I don't want a state and there will always be people in the future that won't want a state.

The state punishes capitalists who break the law.

Is this all you can say about how China treats it's people? They go after capitalists?

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