Submitted by zddy in AskRaddle

Whenever we talk about communism and the like, the two examples brought up are China and Russia.

Just curious what people thought of these other two predominately communist countries.

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rot wrote

like most socialist states there's some nice aspects and theres the repression used against dissidents and war crimes committed by revolutionaries

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transvot wrote

Do they have jails and cops and people who have to wash dishes?

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rora wrote

I don't think the path to communism they have followed is viable, but I can respect that they have both successfully combatted imperialism without succumbing to it in the same way Russia and China did. So critical support.

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Vortex wrote (edited )

I'm a born and raised Viet local (now in Turtle Island) so I know VN pretty well, more than any tankie who claimed to visit the country or that bourgeois Luna Ơi that NonCompete fucking stanned her. Yes, Luna and her family are party members and part of the ruling class in VN.

Even before the war VN had no shortage of oppression from the tankies, even tho they love to claim they were better than the settler colonialists. Everybody grew up in the 70s Saigon remembered how the tankies used terrorist act by ramming a train motor into the city only station to kill hundreds of civilians, many were workers. Yeah we fucking remembered for generations. Nobody there trust the fucking government, not even ruling class like Luna Oi.

If you born and raised there as a broke ass like me you'd soon find out you belong on the shortest end of the stick. Like Bakunin said, people ain't more happy if they were beaten by the People's Stick, and Viets in poverty were beaten by a fucking nail bat.

VN had a successful anarchist revolution that nobody remembered. The Saigon Commune. I only knew about it when my dad let me know that my grandfather was an anarchist who was murdered by Ho Chi Minh followers after they gave his name to the French colonial secret police. That was my catalyst to follow the path of anarchy. Ngô Văn Xuyết was the last major anarchist to write about what happened in VN and since then not many spoke publicly about what happened. In VN you're either tankies or reactionaries, there's no anarchists or other group.

But as the first outspoken anarchist of 21st century who proudly says "fuck the tankies", I aim to make a difference. I'm currently translating The Ego and Its Own into Vietnamese.

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_caspar_ wrote

I'm currently translating The Ego and Its Own into Vietnamese

interesting, are you working from the original german, or an english translation?

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Vortex wrote

English. Hehe I wish I knew German.

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_caspar_ wrote

I can see Wolfi's footnotes helping out alot with that. sounds like a great (and ambitious!) project, wish you the best,,,

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zddy OP wrote (edited )

Good luck and thank you so much for the insight!

You rarely encounter non westernized histories of the Vietnam war era in my area, let alone anything about anarchists in VN.

edit: and this is just more evidence to the bullshit claims of left unity and why anarchist need to be wary of any socialist "revolution"

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MHC wrote

I've known a number of Vietnamese. Almost all of them were Party members. One said that the children of the cadre--were all drug addicts!

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Vortex wrote

Viet anarchist here, :( after decades on this planet I was pretty depressed to be the only active anarchist who's Viet. I only encountered another comrade but they're kinda the left-unity type of anarcho, which is so disappointing. I've been searching for fellow Viet anarchists ever since.

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MHC wrote

Go with the dice you're dealt. I think that race is a medical mistake.

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MHC wrote

Being told to kill others, for the first party's benefit.

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