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hirao OP wrote

Joseph Dietzgen came up with dialectical materialism after Marx died, but based on Marx's theories. Marxism is more than simply the writings of Marx...

Making Coca-cola a cooperative won't prevent it from manufacturing plastic.

Of course it would, we would democratically opt to switch to plant based polymers.

There's nothing natural and unavoidable on the shape of society humans arrange themselves into.

Then you believe capitalism will go on forever? That's ignorant of the way society works. Perhaps natural was the wrong word... It's scientific. Capitalism has to fall away to communism in the end because it cannibalises itself by its very nature. We have to embrace communism in order to survive.

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mofongo wrote

Joseph Dietzgen came up with dialectical materialism after Marx died, but based on Marx's theories.

He came up with it independently from Marx and Engel.

Marxism is more than simply the writings of Marx...

Also Stalin's and Mao's.

Then you believe capitalism will go on forever? That's ignorant of the way society works. Perhaps natural was the wrong word... It's scientific.

You got it backwards, when capitalism collapses it doesn't mean that communism will take its place. This inevitability of history it's nothing more than blind faith. Moving heaven from the sky above to an earthly utopia.

Going from natural to scientific does nothing to eliminate the metaphysicalness of it.

We have to embrace communism in order to survive.

I have no interest to live in a soviet or Chinese style totalitarian society.

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