Submitted by kin in AskRaddle

The title originated in the motto of Euskadi Ta Askatasuna: Bietan Jarrai.

For them the meaning is keep both, armed and legal polític struggle alive to achieve the same result, a independent Euskal Herria.

What I want to ask is, how we can trust oposite tatics to work together, like reformism/or perpetual Evolution (from a anarchocommunism pov maybe) and insurrectionism towards the anarchization of Life.

Maybe to put simple with examples, how supporting biden, attending BLM protests, and embracing a queerIllegalist lifestyle work together (or they dont?).

If you can point any texts Will be awesome. Thanks

Ps: I am not trying any synthetism, Is just regarding the tatics not the theory

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sadie_killer wrote

my first thought is that diversity of tactics goes both ways.

but i think that it's important to consider whether any particular tactic is actually doing anything towards the relevant goals, or if it's just wasting energy.
for a national independence movement, pursuing all avenues, even reformism, makes sense, but for abolishing all hierarchies and maybe civilisation itself? probably less so.

that may not help much, but i think diversity of tactics is a useful term if you weren't already aware. i just didn't want to say my first thought without the second bit.

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kin OP wrote

Yes, I agree on your points.

But,maybe is good to point out,imo there is no end goal per se, or a utopian Horizon, just guidelines (lets put this way). Just a continuous struggle against authority and opressive contructs.

I am interested in this dichotomy, and maybe to rephrase my question, is there any problems in supporting reformist policies in general to anyone trying to live the anarchy here and now?

Besides the diversity of tatics, the utopian view clashes with the anarchization(maybe there is aconcept for this)

Thanks qnd sorry for the scaterred ideas

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sadie_killer wrote

But,maybe is good to point out,imo there is no end goal per se, or a utopian Horizon, just guidelines (lets put this way). Just a continuous struggle against authority and opressive contructs.

oh yes, definitely.
my favourite way of phrasing it is that rather than 'the ends justify the means', it's the means are the ends.
although i've now realised it may be better to say that there are no ends, only means (which is essentially what you just said, of course).

i'd meant to add, but couldn't find the words at the time, that if the concept in your original question (or the diversity of tactics) is relevant at all, it will be for more specific goals.
so i can see situations where in order to achieve some concrete goal (stopping a road being built, or homes demolished), it may be helpful to work at persuading some authority to step in (which is all that legal/political/reformist routes are, in the end), but i don't know how often that helps, and it may be a waste of energy to even leave the option open.

essentially i think i'm trying to say that activities that fall under reformism should be looked at as tools, judged for their specific merits for specific tasks, and studied suspiciously to understand their consequences.
but as the phrase goes 'the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house', and i think reformism as an attitude is dangerous and worse than useless for ending authority.

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kin OP wrote

You summarized it nicely.

I have the same opinion, and what put me in the position to ask for some thoughts is the commotion that happen every election anywhere or towards reformist demands, the notion that with continuous demands (hello socialdemocracia) we will achieve little anarchist "air bubbles" (strange metaphora I know) to allow continue the fight.

And maybe I have some disdain for this because of the same leninist rethoric of supporting the slightest struggle towards what is perceived (in their optics) a progressive struggle, like the support of nationalist struggles in Latin America for example or electoral alliances with any neoliberal party.

And since I resumed my Nihilist readings I am concerned about being supportive of counterproductive struggles in the sense they might be detrimental in real life of the people involved. This is very abstract, but I don't have a good example right now besides the election. And here comes a confession, the first time I voted in my life was against Bolsonaro a couple of years ago, and this hurts my anarchist pride.

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