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NeoliberalismKills wrote

No. There's talk of a UBI to protect it. I think this will buy capitalism a couple decades for sure.

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BlackFlagged wrote

We're already seeing a reversion to feudalism in a lot of aspects. I don't think capitalism is going to be replaced with something better - things will get a lot worse before they get good.

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jadedctrl wrote (edited )

Reformism, pushes toward "ethical globalization." and social democracy will buy capitalism a few decades for sure. Things will get worse, and then liberals will "save the day" and put a smiley-face on capitalism. Workers' rights will do a bit better, living conditions improve for those in core and semi-periphery countries. Then, after some time, all the "smiley-face" reforms will be taken back, and living conditions/workers' rights will get a lot worse. I think that only then will capitalism be overthrown.
We can and should keep fighting the good fight, but IMO we won't (and frankly can't) make too much progress until the conditions are right.

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ProBlackFashAtak wrote

No. Crypto like Bitcoin, and especially Monero will last an awful long time and be used in decentralized markets like OpenBazaar. Even if we actively and forcefully stopped capitalism there would always be cryptocapitalists.

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notanaccout wrote (edited )

Cryptomoneys and black markets are cool yo. I understand thant ancoms dont like them but crypto is mutualist paradise. Even, from a revolutionnary pov, having a money system independent from all gouvernement and private companies can only be a good thing. (At least if the node system works well, otherwise it's another state money)

Also dont mix up market bases economy and capitalism

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amongstclouds wrote

I only see capitalism failing through environmental collapse. So maybe.

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AgentW_C wrote

I'm with you. The only reason Capitalism has been able to stay afloat as long as it has, was that until recently, there were always new lands to expand to, with new resources to exploit. When Europe was used up, they could go to the Americas and devour the resources there. Capitalism has no choice but to keep expanding. It is centered around the idea of infinite growth, even though infinite growth is impossible. Just as if you constantly gobble up chocolate cake, you will eventually run out of chocolate cake, you gobble up resources, you will run out of resources.

Capitalism is teetering now because there are no longer any places for it to expand to; it has effectively taken over every square inch of real estate in the world. Right now, it's trying to keep the game going a little while longer by cannibalizing itself, devouring other capitalist nations, but there are obvious flaws with that strategy.

Capitalism will eventually fall, but things will get much worse before it does and when it does, well, we can only hope they'll be enough of this world left to salvage.

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ycymroflin wrote

I think we will, one way or another. Either we'll see it replaced, or we'll see it render our planet uninhabitable.

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ziq wrote

Too late for that for a lot of the world. We passed the point of no return.

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zorblax wrote

"end of capitalism" is a very fuzzy line.

I think the world will be less capitalistic when I die, yes.

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sudo wrote (edited )

It's impossible to predict that.