celebratedrecluse moderator wrote on March 25, 2020 at 7:07 PM (edited on March 26, 2020 at 8:27 AM)

whatsapp is proprietary, privacy nightmare for organizers definitely

signal isn't capable of group calls

mumble only does audio.

jitsi is the only one that has everything, is open source, encrypted, no known backdoors. unless there's one I don't know about

Edit: Jami/Ring!!!

stoned_chief wrote on April 10, 2020 at 2:07 PM

Jitsi has end-to-end encryption? I never used it cause I thought they didn't.

celebratedrecluse wrote on April 11, 2020 at 5:23 AM

No, it is Encrypted from network to server, server must decrypt in order for the webRTC group call functionality to work.

This is why you host your own server, for example

[deleted] wrote on March 26, 2020 at 7:59 AM (edited on March 26, 2020 at 8:01 AM)

avbeav wrote on March 26, 2020 at 11:17 AM

Had a skeg at Briar. It appears to only work for smartphones, specifically those running Android. As limited as it is, at least Signal has Signal Desktop going for it.

celebratedrecluse wrote on March 26, 2020 at 8:35 AM

Its because Signal has 50 million dollars and briar isnt on google play

Yes,i know, this is the worst timeline

stoned_chief wrote on April 11, 2020 at 11:59 PM

They might've not been on the Play Store early on but I just checked their site and they're currently on the Play Store.

celebratedrecluse wrote on April 12, 2020 at 2:58 AM

Cool, nice find! I stand corrected

stoned_chief wrote on April 11, 2020 at 11:57 PM

Signal is super easy to use and available on all platforms. Briar is still experimental and only for Android. It has potential, but it can't yet replace other messengers. Once versions come out for Linux and hopefully iOS and it's eventually audited, Briar could replace something like Signal.

kano wrote on March 26, 2020 at 9:43 AM

I'm unaware so please any links/ explanations about the spookiness of signal would be helpful thanks. Been making extensive use of that as it seemed to me that they have a solid end to end encryption and definitely compared to whatsapp, a way less intrusive metadata collection.