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n_n wrote

The United States

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ziq wrote

Amazon just to wipe that shit-eating grin off of Bezos' smug face.

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

Really tough call between Amazon or Walmart. Though since everyone's taking out Amazon, I'll go after Walmart. Walmart is all of America's worst traits in corporate form and basically given where I live, they've effectively made it so I've got to keep feeding the beast that's destroying small town USA.

Though if someone could take out Tesla and punch out Elon Musk, I'd really appreciate it. Poor Nikola Tesla...as if dying a penniless virgin despite inventing most of the tech that makes modern life possible wasn't bad enough, he's also associated with this douchecanoe. Nikola Tesla had more genius in his little finger than Musk could ever hope to over the course of his lifetime.

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Splinglebot wrote

tesla was a eugenicist

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

He was, but it doesn't change the fact that his inventions effectively revolutionized society. Tesla gave us alternating current, radio, radar, so much of the tech and principles that led to wireless communication and transistors. Tesla was a eugenicist, which makes him a colossal asshole, but again, he still deserves better than to be associated with Elon Musk.

Musk didn't even found Tesla Motors. He bought the company from the founders (aka the guys who actually did the engineering and cool stuff) and with the purchase, bought the right to call himself a founder. The engineers who actually founded the company, Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, are contractually forbidden from referring to themselves as the founders.

tl;dr, Musk is a rich asshole basically cosplaying as an entrepreneur, and everyone bought into it.

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Splinglebot wrote

it would also hurt all the businesses that rely on AWS

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emma wrote

I'd choose Amazon as well for this reason alone.

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avbeav wrote

Signal, I'm looking at you!

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celebratedrecluse wrote

They use aws hosting??? No way, thats egregiously, just obviously a red flag

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avbeav wrote

I thought so..?

During his talk at 36c3 last December, Moxie was asked why Signal users should take Amazon's "pinkie promise" of not monitoring traffic meta-data. As I heard it, Moxie didn't deny this but started defending it by arguing that their app was designed so it didn't matter where it was hosted, which I took this to mean that their service was indeed hosted on AWS.

However, I can only find posts about how OWS has used Amazon for domain fronting.

Strangely, the video of the talk has been deleted, but the discussion on HN still exists.

So maybe not anyway.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

lol that's fucked. that means every single client end is communicating with a PRISM server in order to sync and get messages, etc. Fuck that

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Majrelende wrote

Google?— so much relies upon it.

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Bezotcovschina wrote

Hard choice. Gazprom or Rosneft? Rosneft or Gazprom? I think, destroying one of them is equal to collapsing the entire state. Raddle, help me to pick one!

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nbdy wrote

Civilization-corp

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Pop wrote

I'm ok with anything on the FTSE top 100

don't know enough about them to know which would be strategic

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