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TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote (edited )

are you talking about anti/postciv's definition of techology, or just computery things?

wikipedia and youtube tutorials, for DIY reparation and general knowledge are cool.

imo you've got all the info you need to build a rocket on there.

example of an awesome channel I found earlier today

Near-instant ambulance and medicine acces via phone is quite cool too.

ps: did you know you could download all wikipedia text and it only takes 14gb compressed!!

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TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote (edited )

Anprims/anticiv/postciv (at least the ones i found interesting) kinda define "technology" as all the processes that we need to access computery things. Like, technology doesnt exist in a vaccume, it gets its existance thanks to work specialisation and the secession of different jobs and skills (from building the huge machines that get ressources out of the mines, to quantum phisics that explain how a chip works).

The grinding of the vast machine that is current society got us to where we are now, and all that huge amount of complexity is considered as bad (oppressive?) by anprims. Even if you dissagree with anprims they have legitimate arguments behind theire critiques of technology, and anticiv/postciv turn anprim critiques of current society into really cool stuff.

I cant find the text I wanted, but after skimming, this is close enought to what I meant if you want a more "in depths" read. If I find the other one I'll post it underneath.

Is it a torrent?

50gb uncompressed, only text, more info here. with images it goes up to 200gb I think. You can put wikipedia in a thumb drive, life is fuckin awesome

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jadedctrl wrote

Automation means "less jobs" and thus more workers starving under capitalism-- under socialism, though, I mean, it could be used to lessen the load on workers while increasing their standard of living, perhaps.
I believe that a planned economy must be calculated to be any sort of success, outside of smaller economies. I.E., the people demand x type of product. The technicians program the computer to caculate what resources, where, when, and how much labour would go into that, and how it would effect the overall economy. By treating the economy like a matrix, desired output could retroactively be used to calculate how many resources and man-hours should go where.
It would go hand-in-hand with supply and demand (for consumer products on a market using labour vouchers). Let's say people buy only half of what was expected-- then the desired output would be cut in half. The computer would adjust, and recalculate the economy on-the-fly.

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Defasher wrote

I suppose industrial technology is very effective at bringing on the collapse that will free us from industrial technology.

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Defasher wrote

That was serious.

Also, guns are a useful tech that will come in handy to take care of counterrevs that try to bring industrial slavery back.