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arduinna wrote

I've heard a lot of Trump supporters want to kill antifascists, usually they refer to hitting them with their car as the main reason for plausible legal defense. Its scary.

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privacy_throwaway wrote

I had a family member murdered this kind of way recently. Some disaffected old white man lost his job and thought it would be a good way to take out his frustration against the world by running over a stranger.

(CW) Family member was in a coma for months before waking up with severe injuries, including severe but still unclear brain injuries. She was never clearly responsive to the people around her, though we like to think she was. Her body failed her a lot and they were taking out organs to keep her alive on a weekly basis. After a couple months she died. It's devastated my family, and especially those who were already struggling emotionally.

One irony is that she moved to the country she did to escape a much more dangerous country. There are more ironies but I'll leave them out.

tldr never underestimate the degree to which an old white guy can feel entitled to whatever the fuck they want, at whatever cost to other people

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fgnijgnwe wrote

how does killing someone for no reason make them a fascist? how do you know he's for authoritarian government or imperialism?

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GrimWillow wrote

how does killing someone for no reason make them a fascist?

This isn't just a threat to "someone" for "no reason", it is a threat specifically to antifascist protesters. If there is a death threat to a specific group, like anti-fascists for example, I'd assume that the targeting is not for "no reason" and actually might be politically motivated. What political affiliation might an anti-anti-fascist hold?

Anybody that wants to kill antifascist protesters might as well be considered on the side of fascists no matter what anyone suggests that their politics are.

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ziq OP wrote

they never said anything about the driver's politics.

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GrimWillow wrote (edited )

It blows me away at how overwhelmingly threatening and violent they have been (which is a violence that antifa is responding to in the first place) and yet they keep claiming that we are the ones starting the fight and being more violent. The mainstream media, corporations, and fash love painting us as the fascists and then pretending that the ones holding nazi flags aren't real fash because "the real fash got defeated in nazi germany".

Throw in that right-wing terrorism is rising and at a new height every year, it is ridiculous to claim that our side are the bad ones. Mix in the rhetoric from both sides, and you find that they are also incredibly toxic people in comparison to us. They claim that they are more violent, and proud of it, because of the blood on their hands and then call us more violent whenever they need to be the victim. The fact that people eat this shit up without looking at the numbers and evidence is disconcerting.

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AgitatedStatesOfAmazement wrote

Awfully optimistic of them to assume they can pull their gun in response to someone else pulling theirs and then fire it before they do.

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sandy_dreams wrote

As paranoid as it may sound, I have been preparing for a societal collapse since the Trump presidency began.

Is anyone else prepping for violent raids from the far-right?

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

There's no point in preparing because if things get to the point where they're 'raiding' us, they'll have the state and its forces marching right behind them.

The only way to survive a fascist state is to get out.

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GrimWillow wrote

Where do you run when you can't cross the border? Fuck the state and all the bootlickers and all the fash.

Spread Anarchism before it's too late!

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

Historically, people that couldn't get out were killed. So, all the poor people that weren't in line with the fash agenda.

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transhumancom wrote

Are we condemned to repeat history? What can we do in 2018 to escape?

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sandy_dreams wrote

That's certainly one option but you can't keep running forever.

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youknowhom wrote

We shouldn't have to run. This isn't their country, if they can't accept diversity they need to leave. They're the ones who should need to get out.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

If you mean the USA, it wasn't their country when they took it from its previous inhabitants either. Fairness has never stopped them before.

The last stage of capitalism is fascism. Most of the liberal bootlickers you see around you will have their switches flipped to fascist-mode the moment their comforts are threatened. History always repeats itself.

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GrimWillow wrote

Those liberal bootlickers that are already spending most of their time complaining about how the lefties are "making a scene" and "making it worse" in response to the rising fascism are ready to blame us for their change to fascism when it happens. Fucking scum.

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ziq OP wrote

"You shouldn't have pushed us to fascism with your scary black masks and noisy disruptive protests!"

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rot wrote

They're the pawns of elites, who are the ones with the actual power to shape society, and without whom antifa would shrivel up and die overnight.

lmao.

I'll regret saying this , I'm sure. But could we provoking fash into pulling a gun on an "elite" like a cop or representative?

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