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Pop wrote

Dressing like ninjas and attacking us with weapons at our own peaceful rallies isn't self-defense.

claiming 'peacefulness' while promoting policies that disproportionately or wholly harm people of color is a well-known historical tactic among racists to gain legitimacy among people who don't know better

re self-defense; history begs to differ here - again, you'll find loads to read in f/antifa

This accuses all conservatives of being racists. Another strawman. Wanting to create policies to limit migration is not a racist act, it is actually self defense. We have children to think about, children that depend on us being able to make a decent living to put them through college.

yeesh, it'd take a lot of work for me personally to get to you considering how far down the racist xenophobia hole you're in. maybe check the sidebar of f/Borders

So you actually admit to hating the constitution?

I don't speak for the others here, but I'm an anarchist
I don't particularly hate the constitution but as I assume you know, anarchists are anti-state, among other things, so obviously we don't want constitutions (or states, or borders) to exist
like the article says, there are different types of antifa, some of which are ok with the existence of states, but probably none of them think that some garbage document written by slaveholders while talking about the freedom of men, and which still endorses slavery, is worth a damn

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote

<<claiming 'peacefulness' while promoting policies that disproportionately or wholly harm people of color>>

Black people aren't the problem. The problem is ILLEGAL aliens. People that are INVADERS in this country. We dont have unlimited welfare checks to hand out. Those of us who actually work for a living need to pay for their free ride and it's not fair to ask that of us.

<<racist xenophobia hole you're in>>

I'm not a racist, I actually have dual Israeli/US citizenship!

<<re self-defense; history begs to differ here>>

Not in America. Last I checked, America saved the world from fascism in WW2. Or was that a conspiracy theory too?

<<garbage document written by slaveholders while talking about the freedom of men, and which still endorses slavery, is worth a damn>>

Okay so where in the First Amendment does it say anything about endorsing slavery? Strawman strawman strawman and its so clear to me that you just hate America and want something akin to Chinese autocracy to replace our democratic system.

The system we have might be flawed in some superficial ways, but it's still the BEST system in the world. No country can claim to be as prosperous and free as America. No system is perfect but ours is pretty damned close.

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Pop wrote (edited )

I'm not a racist, I actually have dual Israeli/US citizenship!

omg, thanks for the laugh

I'm not going to respond to you anymore because I don't think you realise you're a parody account

perhaps someone else will pick up the baton

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote

Every time I ask for evidence or reasoning or explanation on a lefty site, I get insulted, downvoted to oblivion, or some combination of the two.

No sources. Never any sources. What happened to the "party of science and evidence," eh?

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DaisyDisaster wrote

Dude, we are not here to educate you, and we're not a part of some party. This is pretty basic shit you can look up if you * actually * cared about getting out of your bubble. Take a break from Fox News and immerse yourself in some leftist sources for a while.

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote

Who did you vote for then?

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DaisyDisaster wrote

I voted for Clinton because I used to be a liberal until after the election when I realized how fucked up everything was and how inadequate liberalism was to address the world's problems.

I haven't voted since then.

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote (edited )

So you're a democrat who realized what a bad leader Shillery would be.

And next time Bernie Sanders will be the candidate or Biden and you'll vote for him.

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DaisyDisaster wrote

Uh, no, I'm not even registered as a Democrat and, as I said, I don't vote now. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote

"""""If it isn't obvious to you, you're obviously a lost cause who can't be reasoned with"""""

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ConquestOfToast wrote

It's more that you're not even here in good faith. The questions you ask point to a deep deep place of ignorance. The reason you're getting ignored or insulted is because you're feigning intellectual rigor without putting in the foot work to even have the conversation in the first place. You want us to answer questions within the purview you've already accepted as reality, and when we don't you shoehorn assumptions as some moment where you have the upper hand. This isn't a conversation, this is you screaming into the void, and patting yourself on the back when the void doesn't scream back.

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote (edited )

“Last I checked, America saved the world from fascism in WW2.”

TRANSLATION:

“America did something good once and earned the right to shit on the world forever.”

How many of our heroes have gone on to do horrible things? The term is moral licensing.

Also, Israel is still riding the victim train out of the holocaust right over the bodies of Palestinian children. I don’t know how your duel citizenship was supposed to prove you aren’t racist, when you’re president has said Israel is a “Jewish state.” A state based on race is a racist state.

You are so deep in shit you’re breathing it like air.

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote (edited )

What about all the African states that limit white migration? Are they racist too? Every nation has the right to defend its borders from invaders. Perhaps Hamas shouldn't use their children as human shields.

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mofongo wrote

Inmigrants are not invaders. The american military is an invader.

Israel shouldn't aim at children or bomb residential areas.

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conservative_raddle_fan wrote

We're talking about Israel here, how is America invading Israel?

Israel wouldn't deliberately kill innocents, that's a strawman.

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mofongo wrote (edited )

Hamas shouldn't use their children as human shields.

This phrase means "Terrorist are using children as shield, we shot the child and the terrorist. High five!"

Of course, using children as shield is a lie. Israel is pretty indiscrimate with their shooting.

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retiredaccount wrote

using children as a shield is a lie.

Not entirely. They do use civilian shielding, though Israel's equally indiscriminate either way.

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote

Do Jewish Israelis have a history of being oppressed by Palestinians? Because, if not, these two things are not the same.

Fascists always parrot the arguments of their victims against them, pretending to be the victims while making slippery slope arguments.

Go away fascist sea lion.