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not_AFX_lol wrote

Hitler and Mussolini were both authoritarian leaders who sought to create a state that, with corporate assistance, would be capable of dominating the people.

As for the notion of fascism relating to 'toxic masculinity': while traditional fascism (to the best of my knowledge) only goes as far as establishing and enforcing gender roles, most modern fascists are affiliated with alt-right beliefs, MRAs, and other ideologies that are misogynist and 'pro-toxic masculinity'.

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yeahIsupporttrump wrote

interesting. im curious, given the definition above, what is it about a person that lets you identify an individual as a fascist in the first place?

noting that it is only in the western world that women not only can vote but have the same opportunities as men (despite certain drawbacks which are too complex for this venue), how is it that this civilization more than others is misogynist?

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_______deleted__ wrote (edited )

Do exact definitions really matter?

If someone is a) far right authoritarian, b) a proudly bigoted white supremacist and c) a filthy rich corporatist - then who cares what label you put on them? They're straight up dangerous for anyone who isn't also a rich white bigot.

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yeahIsupporttrump wrote

it does, because logic like yours confuses the situation.

if the label doesnt matter than neither do words in general. I could call you a "quadrofugitarian" whatever that means and it would be an insult.

what is the point of that?

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_______deleted__ wrote (edited )

trump's biggest fan talking to us about logic. after a year of trump's rule.

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not_AFX_lol wrote

I don't think it's a matter of "western society is more misogynist than any other", but a recognition that while societies like, for example, Saudi Arabia (to whom the United States sells weapons and from whom oil is purchased) are far harsher on women's rights, that doesn't mean that Western society is perfect.

As for what defines a fascist - in the modern day there is generally a sense of authoritarian politics (ex. militarization of the police, intensification of surveillance programs), intense nationalism and corresponding xenophobia (ex. anti-immigrant, anti-Islam, or anti-Semitic rhetoric or policy), anti-feminist and anti-LGBT views, etc. To some extent fascism can be correlated and overlapped with right-wing authoritarianism.