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kore wrote (edited )

"If we are going to fix this, we have to look at white supremacists differently, not as monsters but as broken men and women who are capable of doing monstrous things."

This is a really nice sentiment. I think it's important to apply this to other groups, even ones that aren't considered "extremist" like, for example, rich people, neoliberals, and bootlickers. In a different world someone like Elon Musk might have been a free software supporter who developed the first open standard for electric vehicles.

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anarkiddomedia wrote

We have to be careful, though, because these people can do irredeemably bad things. Take every individual with caution.

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kore wrote

yeah but it doesn't mean that you can't try to change them

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sudo wrote

I hate how some people think acknowledging this means you're defending these groups, or that you're secretly one of them.

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leftous wrote

Leftists and anarchists are understandably annoyed and disillusioned by liberalism where "compromise" is the name of the game with racists, fascists, and oppressors alike. Often liberals come to us in the form of concern trolls, so it's understandable why someone might react that way.

However, yes we can be uncompromising while also understanding why these people have become the way they are; especially if you believe humans are fundamentally good, as I do.

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kore wrote

I always say "just because I understand it doesn't mean I condone it"

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DissidentRage wrote

The problem is these toxic ideologies already have a ton of adherents, and lately a friendly ear in some of the most powerful positions in governments the world over. It would be nice to shake these people out of their dangerous mindsets, but expediency is as important a factor in all of this as everything else.

Hitler came to absolute power in a matter of mere months. We are fortunate that the leaders with the greatest potential of externalizing their hate are also the least competent in this day and age.

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kore wrote

haven't seen statistics on what "a ton" exactly means, so I'll remain skeptical until I see some definite numbers.

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DissidentRage wrote

Take your pick, from overt neo-Nazis and white supremacists, to casual right-wingers with latent pro-fascist beliefs who enable the more overt. Are you actually saying there isn't a sizable enough right-wing movement to be concerned about?

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kore wrote

I'm definitely concerned about it, I'm just unsure whether it's to the point that bashing is the only answer

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DissidentRage wrote

Bashing isn't the only answer but it shouldn't be discarded from the toolset. No, it's not a savory way to address it, but it is necessary. This has been borne out in history.